My first RE product build

[PRIVATEpastry 10+ year member]

So what your saying is that if he had used screws in the enclosure then glued everything together, and then once the glue dries to remove the screws???? That's the most stupidest thing I've ever heard. I never use wood glue at all when building my enclosures....and yes I use caulking. Using brad nails is fine....but I think this sorta topic has been argued more than several times. I much prefer to use 1.625" long drywall screws on every single box that I have built. Screws is what holds the pieces of the "box" together...

Douche! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

he doesn't understand how it works at all...

 

[swimfreak26 10+ year member]

i say this as nicely and as respecfully as someone can..........your a fvcking dumba$$. now before you come back with "you dont know anything about building boxes" please.....read what i have to say. after building a few with JUST screws in my beginning days, and then using glues AND screws as of late.........you will NEVER have a box as strong as a glued up box. the screws are clamps, only for as long as the glue is drying. then by all means YOU CAN TAKE THEM OUT. IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE! Moe only uses glue on his boxes, nothing else........but let me guess.....he has NO CLUE what hes doing.correct?

True words. Wood glue, and read that carefully - WOOD glue - forms a chemical bond that is stronger than the wood itself. Essentially you'll break the wood before the joint so screws are completely unnecessary if you've got the means (clamps) to hold it together while glue dries.

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

^^ indeed, people who use construction adhesive think their glue bonds are strong, but they are only physical bonds.

 

[80INCHES 5,000+ posts]

nice box.....i'm sure it wangs and sound good

80

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

I gotta quit coming to this forum....I've built many many boxes in the past and never once used any wood glue at all yet I've yet to have a box get destroyed because I build them well. I know glue is stronger but removing screws after the glue is dried is even stupider.....why bother???? Leave the screws in....why create more work than intended??? I know carpenters will say the same exact thing you guys are....and then some. BUT....I tend to be a little different in my case, but does that mean I'm stupid, Lemans....as you pointed out??? NO. You can view my boxes I made in my link below or as to see some and I'll gladly post some up. What I use for caulking tho is liquid nails. I won't use another caulking out there. This shit is strong....even taking all the scres out of a box this stuff tears the MDF apart. Am I really stupid?? No....I'm not just because you guys use wood glue and no screws OR brad nails doesn't necessarily mean that I gotta also. I use what works for me and that's all that matters.

no you don't understand the point of why people are saying you are stupid. saywhat is saying that you CAN remove the screws if you want to, not you should. the glue is what bonds them together, not the screws at all. sure, screws might add some structural support, but they aren't doing anything like a true wood glue would. you are getting mad about the wrong thing my friend. i also wouldn't be so aggravated when people try and correct you, especially people that do it many times a week //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif .

and yes, i could call you even stupider after saying you use liquid nails for caulk as most glues say on the bottle: not to be used as a sealant, and most sealants say: not to be used as an adhesive.

 

[80INCHES 5,000+ posts]

as a former box builder now designer..i agree

80

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

Who says I'm getting mad?!?! I know what your saying, you may think I don't but I do. Your the one missing my point as to why just leave the screws where their at instead of removing them makes no sense to me.
As for the caulking: I've used liquid nails for years. Like I said before, I use what works for me....and liquid nails does it's job. It also says Construction use right on the bottle....tell me what other use it has??

And as for me being stupid: There's other people stupider in this world than me.

i'm not missing the point at all, you just don't choose to see it. you CAN remove the screws if you want to. i personally do not because as i said it isn't NECESSARY, but if you do, it won't affect the integrity of the enclosure too much at all. screws are just mini clamps, that's it. construction use anything is obviously not used as a specialized product. it is not a wood glue by any means, it doesn't create a chemical bond. it is not meant to be used as a sealant either, that's why they make silicone sealants. you don't use glue to seal the box.

 

[954runner 10+ year member]

geez... chill out guys... if everyone is happy with the way they build their own boxes, then let it be. let it be. let it be. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

I can't do anything but laugh at your reply. I totally understand what you and others' are saying. I said it before already in the first reply about removing the screws....and yes it isn't necessary to remove them, DUH! but rather by choice...another DUH! You may think I don't see your point or choose, as you call it, to see your point. I choose to look at HOW I build my own boxes, as well as for others. I've yet to have one person come up to me and tell me to rebuild it because the box busted or broke somehow or another. I don't think I need a 16 yr old telling me the difference between caulking and sealants....dude, im way older than you. I choose...CHOOSE to use liquid nails as a caulking because of its effectiveness....not because its not required!!! Silicone sealant is more expensive and dries a longass time than liquid nails....trust me, I've been using liquid nails for years....AGAIN, I use what works. Period. YOU Lemans, just don't wanna accept the fact that this is how I build my boxes, and perhaps some other people that build them this way on here as well. Well that's fine. Each to their own. Like I said before, I use what works for me. As 954runner states, if everyone is happy with the way they build their own boxes, then let it be. I totally agree on this one. End of arguement.

i really couldn't care less how you build your boxes, my entire motive is that when you are trying to get people to buy your enclosures and say wood glue is a joke and screws are what holds the enclosure together, that makes me second guess myself. that's all.

and as for the bolded part, age has no bearing on what is true, and i do know that screws don't hold the enclosure together //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[negativezeroz 5,000+ posts]

havent carpeted yet and would have better install pics but my friends the one who took the pic last night and my computer is fudged so cant reinstall my camera utility until i fix it..

 

[theCybe 5,000+ posts]

The SE is a great sub from my experience. I think the lighter moving mass (as in the 15, anyway) plays a big part.)

 

[Nukedsodapop 5,000+ posts]

Pretty loud!

Sounds great too, good job max

-Blake

 

[negativezeroz 5,000+ posts]

Thanks. Your's is pretty **** loud too. I like it. Now just get the other one in and get 4awg for God's sake. Lol. (idnk why you bumped this kinda old blake)

The SE is a good sub. Just not loud enough for me.