Advice on a Murder Charge

[IgnoreMe 5,000+ posts]

hahah i couldnt figure out what was going on. at first i thought your buddy was the one that jumped out the truck and tried to **** up the guy that was walking. and for that i was gonna post, tough shit, your buddy deserves to go to hell.

then i realized your buddy was the dude that was walking down the street while they went to start shit with him. unfortunatly he got a little over his head, when he went for the dudes throat. kinda shitty, but no doubt he was startled, and from that point it was "fight or flight".

dont know what to tell you, but i saw a good lawyer is a must.

 

[JT1979 10+ year member]

x2. They were gonna jump him. Didn't seme like they were gonna kill him. And if anything he could've just ran or something. Worse is he would've gotten his *** kicked. Instead he breaks a bottle and kills one of them? wtf //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wow.gif.23d729408e9177caa2a0ed6a2ba6588e.gif

I know what u mean here. I hate it that he will have to go through this, but he did this, and he will have to deal with this the rest of his life reguardless of the outcome. it will take a long time for this to get over with here.

some have to learn the hard way .

 

[IgnoreMe 5,000+ posts]

x2. They were gonna jump him. Didn't seme like they were gonna kill him. And if anything he could've just ran or something. Worse is he would've gotten his *** kicked. Instead he breaks a bottle and kills one of them? wtf //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wow.gif.23d729408e9177caa2a0ed6a2ba6588e.gif

when your put in a position like that you react with instinct.

if someones trying to jump me, im going full force.

 

[slick rick 10+ year member]

Debating his requisite mens rea here won't matter a **** bit.

 

[dB-SPL 10+ year member]

not true at all..this is why i made my 1st post...admission means almost nothing in this stage.

If he states to an interrogator that he had intended to take this mans life and they have it on record, you think the Judge, Jury or D.A. is going to give him a break? Of course he can admit to killing this person and still stand a chance at a lesser charge, but I can't see this happening if he's already said "I planned to kill him". Without a private attourney, that's almost a guaranteed Murder conviction.

-Bill-

 

[slick rick 10+ year member]

If he states to an interrogator that he had intended to take this mans life and they have it on record, you think the Judge, Jury or D.A. is going to give him a break? Of course he can admit to killing this person and still stand a chance at a lesser charge, but I can't see this happening if he's already said "I planned to kill him". Without a private attourney, that's almost a guaranteed Murder conviction.
-Bill-

Federal rules of evidence might apply...nobody knows the specific circumstance. Our constitution and the FRE have exclusions when introducing evidence. You cant just volunteer "Hey I killed him and I enjoyed it" and expect it to walk into court if it violates any rules of collecting evidence. Self incrimination is protected by our 5th amendment...

 

[JT1979 10+ year member]

he stated he did it, but didnt know the guy was dead. The guy junped out the car and rushed towards him. he busted the bottle on the road and when the guy got to him, he tried to get him with the bottle before the other 2 got out of the car. he done what he did and the other guys ran back to the car and he ran away as well.

I'm assuming, the other guys didnt know he was dead either until a little while later and then called 911.

 

[JT1979 10+ year member]

Federal rules of evidence might apply...nobody knows the specific circumstance. Our constitution and the FRE have exclusions when introducing evidence. You cant just volunteer "Hey I killed him and I enjoyed it" and expect it to walk into court if it violates any rules of collecting evidence. Self incrimination is protected by our 5th amendment...

man of wisdom out of G-ville here.

No one knows exactly what went on except David and those 3 guys, and one of them cannot tell anyone anything, and the other 2 are not going to confess to doing any wrong doings.

 

[slick rick 10+ year member]

man of wisdom out of G-ville here.
No one knows exactly what went on except David and those 3 guys, and one of them cannot tell anyone anything, and the other 2 are not going to confess to doing any wrong doings.

exactly...we can run around here in circles. I wish I was in gville still...4 hours south now, but vicariously living in gville still. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[IgnoreMe 5,000+ posts]

of course no body knows what happened exactly, but its fun to discuss and give points of views //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[slick rick 10+ year member]

of course no body knows what happened exactly, but its fun to discuss and give points of views //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

It is...but it gets tiring when law professors always own you with ridiculous hypos all day. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

 

[xtremebassjunky 10+ year member]

he didn't have to slash a guy in the throat...

he could have just stabbed him in the arm or chest... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

but basically just not kill anyone..//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

 

[JT1979 10+ year member]

Always! I just hope everything works out in a little bit of his favor. Like I stated before, HE IS WRONG, but if they hadn't went after him, nothing would have happened.

 

[JT1979 10+ year member]

he didn't have to slash a guy in the throat...
he could have just stabbed him in the arm or chest... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

but basically just not kill anyone..//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

from his sisters story, he was going to stab the guy in the hand when he tried to punch him, but he never punched he just ran and rushed him. The typical redneck thing around here. Tackle fighting!

 

[slick rick 10+ year member]

Always! I just hope everything works out in a little bit of his favor. Like I stated before, HE IS WRONG, but if they hadn't went after him, nothing would have happened.

Yep. I'm tellin you he needs a good lawyer, spending 20k could save him from spending an extra 5-10 years in prison, which would mean a loss of at least $100k in potential earnings if he was in prison making Gators license plates.