Should drugs be legalized!?

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

The prohibition of drugs has done absolutely nothing to stem the demand for it...

Quite the contrary, the war on drugs has made the drug problem in the US worse. I'll explain.

Before the war on drugs, marijuana from Mexico and South America was abundant. The term 'home grown' actually meant crap, people WANTED that Mexican brown. Then the war on drugs started up, and the US made it much harder to smuggle drugs across our borders. What happened? Did the drugs stop coming? No. But demand for higher profits from the greater risks DID do something... it shifted the smugglers from the relatively bulky marijuana, to the much smaller and easier to conceal cocaine.

The US's crack problem? Thank the United States government for it. They made cocaine that much cheaper and more prolific so as to allow for the 'invention' of cooked down and processed cocaine... crack. And now what does our government say about it? They say the crack cocaine epidemic is a sign the war on drugs is more necessary than ever.

 

[James Bang 5,000+ posts]

You are a victim of the war on drug's propaganda, do you know that?
No study Ive ever seen/heard/read proved that drug, in and of itself, lead to desires to commit crimes. But many many studies have shown that the high prices for these drugs, based on their legal status and the only place to find them is the black market, does in fact lead to alot of crime in an attempt for the user/addict to pay for his habit. This is not to suggest its necessarily a good idea to just start handing the stuff out for free either, but to simply say using drugs will lead to a propensity to commit crimes is disingenuous to reality.

Alcohol is legal to consume in the US. Consuming alcohol and then driving heavy machinery is not only stupid, its illegal and is dealt with directly. If you are caught driving while impaired.... well we all know what happens. But when it comes to elicit drugs rather than alcohol, we are suppose to blame the drug itself, not the user?

Amsterdam wont be the same for much longer. Their incredibly liberal laws have allow/encouraged a large population of Muslims to settle there. Studies show they will become the majority there in a few years, and it is predicted that their extremely conservative views will completely remove those liberal policies in the Netherlands that allowed them to settle there in the first place. There should be a lesson learned from that, right? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

i'm not a stranger to drugs. I know what they can do. How can you say that there's no studies about drug's correlation to crime when doing drugs is a crime. come on. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[Savstyle 10+ year member]

GOD NO

Mary jane yes

Everything else hell no.

Thats a horrible idea due to the addictive nature of alot of these drugs. I can see how it could be heavily monitored and work out. But its somthing i would not like to see happen.

Scary thought thats for **** sure.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

How much tax money would it take to regulate the end to end process of delivering drugs to the US people? When product gets too expensive what stops people from illegally producing and selling the drugs again, just as they are now? Then we have two ways to spend money regulating drugs...yay and stuff
And just because meth is legal is that going to stop some tweaker from stealing for money for more meth? Just because its legal doesn't mean its free...

The profits made off smugglers and dealers accepting the risk of going to prison (or worse) far exceed the actual cost to process every illegal drug I know of.

 

[newusername 10+ year member]

GOD NO
Mary jane yes

Everything else hell no.

Thats a horrible idea due to the addictive nature of alot of these drugs. I can see how it could be heavily monitored and work out. But its somthing i would not like to see happen.

Scary thought thats for **** sure.

You're assuming the legality of the drug is what controls our demand for it; we know that's incorrect.

audioholic - I agree. We can say the same thing for what's been done to the demand of heroin: it hasn't been stemmed at all. Instead, drug dealers bring it in 10x purer at 1/10 the cost it was 40 years ago.

 

[duece212 5,000+ posts]

It doesn't cost much for the government to regulate the private sector. In order for illegal production to compete on costs, they would have to be quite large and, thus, would have a hard time going under the radar. And how do these dealers establish selling networks if a person can go get reliable known product elsewhere?


How will that be any different then than now? At least with my approach, we can do more to prevent meth addiction down the road.

Assuming the government can do anything efficiently is flawed.

Also look at all the illegal drugs coming into the US right now, sounds like a pretty big operation to me, and it must be under the radar if its continuing currently.

Dealers get established selling networks if they can undercut the price of gov supplied drugs. The junky that steals to buy drugs isn't going to pay double because he can get it legally, he'll go for the discount at the illegal dealer so he can get more high for his money. Simple druggie logic.

The profits made off smugglers and dealers accepting the risk of going to prison (or worse) far exceed the actual cost to process every illegal drug I know of.

Not talking about the actual production, talking about the regulation thereof

 

[James Bang 5,000+ posts]

i wonder what does the gov do w/ the drugs they seize. hmmm.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

i'm not a stranger to drugs. I know what they can do. How can you say that there's no studies about drug's correlation to crime when doing drugs is a crime. come on. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

That's a self fulfilling prophecy. Sounds like something our government would say...
"Studies show that 100% of drug users are criminals. Thus, there is a distinct link between drug use, and committing crimes. Indisputable evidence that drugs should be illegal."

What they dont tell you, even in the fine print, is that the drug use itself is considered a crime and thus every citizen who 'uses' is a criminal. Even the otherwise harmless grandma who likes to partake. The only real link is the one created by lawyers. And you perpetuate this idea.

What drug, specifically, do you know of that when taken, gives you the sensation to go rob a convenience store? Again I think you dont realize the depth to which you hve been duped by the govt and the media. I dont blame you, the mjority of Americans have the same short-sighted view of the situation they been fed since elementary school.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

GOD NO
Mary jane yes

Everything else hell no.

Thats a horrible idea due to the addictive nature of alot of these drugs. I can see how it could be heavily monitored and work out. But its somthing i would not like to see happen.

Scary thought thats for **** sure.

Alcohol is addictive. Physically addictive in fact, not just mentally like some other drugs. What prevents us, a society as a whole, from becoming worthless drunks?

 

[duece212 5,000+ posts]

What drug, specifically, do you know of that when taken, gives you the sensation to go rob a convenience store?

Marijuana!

Its a damn good thing it makes people lazy too otherwise stoners would be robbing the munchie isles at convenience stores across the country

 

[James Bang 5,000+ posts]

That's a self fulfilling prophecy. Sounds like something our government would say...
"Studies show that 100% of drug users are criminals. Thus, there is a distinct link between drug use, and committing crimes. Indisputable evidence that drugs should be illegal."

What they dont tell you, even in the fine print, is that the drug use itself is considered a crime and thus every citizen who 'uses' is a criminal. Even the otherwise harmless grandma who likes to partake. The only real link is the one created by lawyers. And you perpetuate this idea.

What drug, specifically, do you know of that when taken, gives you the sensation to go rob a convenience store? Again I think you dont realize the depth to which you hve been duped by the govt and the media. I dont blame you, the mjority of Americans have the same short-sighted view of the situation they been fed since elementary school.

it's not what they do when they're on the drug, but what they would do to be on the drug...

have you experimented w/ drugs before?? If not, then you have no merit in this discussion.

 

[Savstyle 10+ year member]

You're assuming the legality of the drug is what controls our demand for it; we know that's incorrect.
audioholic - I agree. We can say the same thing for what's been done to the demand of heroin: it hasn't been stemmed at all. Instead, drug dealers bring it in 10x purer at 1/10 the cost it was 40 years ago.

true, but you have to admit.

There are alot of kids that try those kind of drugs to rebel. Not saying all of them im just saying some.

But i get what your saying and your right.

 

[terra 5,000+ posts]

i wonder what does the gov do w/ the drugs they seize. hmmm.

Come up with new policies.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Marijuana!
Its a damn good thing it makes people lazy too otherwise stoners would be robbing the munchie isles at convenience stores across the country

Im going to assume you re joking and not bother pointing out the flaw in that logic. For what its worth, you did make me laugh.

 

[James Bang 5,000+ posts]

What drug, specifically, do you know of that when taken, gives you the sensation to go rob a convenience store? Again I think you dont realize the depth to which you hve been duped by the govt and the media. I dont blame you, the mjority of Americans have the same short-sighted view of the situation they been fed since elementary school.

you can't be serious. maybe this is your trolling style, but whatever. I have my own style, too.

go on.

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