new build

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

Mockup I love the white on black with the black letters. I'm not overly impressed with the fit of the softparts.

The cone is slightly to deep. The cones are stupid light. 200 grams with the surround. 4 layer copper coil with sandwich leads I don't particularly like this set up because it puts up stress point on a joint where It's soldered to the direct connection leads. The weight of the wreck can damage the tinsel leads. No no DD..

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

well i had 400 per side to my other PA mids and i was jst asking too much from them so on my search for the perfect drives these are the next victim.

https://www.parts-express.com/bc-8bg51-8-neodymium-woofer--294-696

first off. i don't know what is more impressive the bass output or high end extension. I'm excited and will be breaking them in tonight. 400x2 or these fuckers so i have to be pretty cautious. these freaking PG Xenons don't PLAY.

Now to find some ****** tweeters that will fit without to much modification

 

[k5james 10+ year member]

Roughly what size you working with and where you planning on crossing the tweet?

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

Roughly what size you working with and where you planning on crossing the tweet?

I have around 3" mounting diameter. The morel 378 looks sweet for the monies but I want to try a ribbon too

Lol

 

[k5james 10+ year member]

I have around 3" mounting diameter. The morel 378 looks sweet for the monies but I want to try a ribbon tooLol

You can put on your big boy pants and run a RAAL...//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/horn-tweeters/seas-prestige-27tbcd/gb-dxt-h1499-tweeter/

https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/horn-tweeters/morel-cat378-morel-horn-tweeter/

https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/scanspeak-soft-dome-tweeters/scanspeak-illuminator-d3004/6620-00-tweeter/

https://www.parts-express.com/fountek-neo-x-30-ribbon-tweeter-black--296-713

https://www.parts-express.com/morel-et-338-1-1-8-soft-dome-tweeter-matched-pair--277-070

I'm digging the morel horn loaded softdome

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

Roughly what size you working with and where you planning on crossing the tweet?

I want to cross the low as possible. I'd be happy at 2000/12db..

 

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

Mockup I love the white on black with the black letters. I'm not overly impressed with the fit of the softparts.The cone is slightly to deep. The cones are stupid light. 200 grams with the surround. 4 layer copper coil with sandwich leads I don't particularly like this set up because it puts up stress point on a joint where It's soldered to the direct connection leads. The weight of the wreck can damage the tinsel leads. No no DD..

Plenty of subs have some space between cone and spider. The idea is if you do need to stack the spiders very thick or use a spacer even you have some extra space. You should be burying the solder joint of tinsels to coil leads in glue or it will be a weak spot whatever way you get them through (though I also prefer floating leads).

Light cone is nice. You're not going to be nearly loud enough to start shredding cones so anything more is just lost efficiency.

How tight are the gaps in those newer motors by the way?

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

Plenty of subs have some space between cone and spider. The idea is if you do need to stack the spiders very thick or use a spacer even you have some extra space. You should be burying the solder joint of tinsels to coil leads in glue or it will be a weak spot whatever way you get them through (though I also prefer floating leads).
Light cone is nice. You're not going to be nearly loud enough to start shredding cones so anything more is just lost efficiency.

How tight are the gaps in those newer motors by the way?

The cone is too deep.

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

Plenty of subs have some space between cone and spider. The idea is if you do need to stack the spiders very thick or use a spacer even you have some extra space. You should be burying the solder joint of tinsels to coil leads in glue or it will be a weak spot whatever way you get them through (though I also prefer floating leads).
Light cone is nice. You're not going to be nearly loud enough to start shredding cones so anything more is just lost efficiency.

How tight are the gaps in those newer motors by the way?

Pretty **** tight but this is the last motor to use the short copper 3" coil. The new 9500k uses the larger longer coil. I talked to the guys at DD and despite having I have your call the colon area is 25% larger and is actually just as light as the original cone so it's really not much of a loss except for the higher qts / qts which when you order the super charge option brings your qts down to about .45 or so vs .65.

 

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

The cone is too deep.

Do they want a slightly different frame? Too deep on the cone is a PITA. I used to have issues with some of the Sundown Z cones when I used a lot of them.

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

Do they want a slightly different frame? Too deep on the cone is a PITA. I used to have issues with some of the Sundown Z cones when I used a lot of them.

Yeah. They don't fit without pushing the surround down or pushing the cone down. Wtf!

 

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

Yeah. They don't fit without pushing the surround down or pushing the cone down. Wtf!

Considering how stiff your suspension will be it's going to be a non-issue in your application but it's definitely not as neat to glue down the surround when it's hovering 1/8" above the frame when you rest it in place.