most over-rated sub?

[scarolina 10+ year member]

two words HOME THEATER

 

[phantom240 5,000+ posts]

Plus it is better to have subs play different frequencies, a single subwoofer handling lets say each frequency from 50 - 100 won't sound as good as a sub that plays just a single 50hz tone, his reasoning for multiple subs is also so each sub does less work, not just that it covers different portions of the spectrum...

although, yeah an 8 and a 15 can cover pretty much the same scale of a spectrum, but what will handle 25 hz better, a well made 15 or a well made 8?

You can disagree with me if you want, fine, but by personal experiences the 15 is usually able to handle 25 hz much more loudly than an 8, not necessarily more clarity, but easily more loudly.

Youre an idiot. Subs arent people, they dont care how much work theyre doing so long as youre not doing anything stupid to them. And of course a 15 will handle 25hz better, at frequencies that low the more air you can displace the better.. but thats not to say an 8 cant do it as well, because the design of the sub and the box and what power it is being fed can do a lot for a sub's output.

 

[Crown_amps]

Type X, everyone around me loves em..but from what i've heard i haven't been impressed at all. maybe not the most overrated, but..

install dependent fool

 

[phantom240 5,000+ posts]

Will a mod please delete this thread already?

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

I'm not a fan of ng's trash talking either man, but he made a lot of valid points which you promptly ignored. Re-read his post and realize how much trash you just spewed in this thread.

yeah well i wouldn't have talked any trash if he hadn't first it seens to be the only thing they are on the forum to do so why not? lol i know wat he said about piston area when i gave those figures i didn't want to take the time to look up piston area so i just did the diameter as far as the other things he's right plenty of subs CAN cover the spectrum but i don't want just one to so it's my opinion, why can't everyone leave it at that... why do i gotta go end myself? lol... mainly because i dissagree with them, not cause i'm wrong

 

[Blove1991 10+ year member]

thank you //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif you are one of the few with a brain

It seems you only think ppl have a brain if they are a fan of JL audio lol

No offense //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

wat the **** is your problem? 90% of what you just said here is ignorant insults that anyone with a brain or half a shred of maturity would sneer at.... all the ideas you presented couldv'e easilly been stated without comments like... you really think you're a god of the internet don't you? well i'm sry my personal prefference dosen't live up to your will oh informed and wise one... i'll make shure never to say anything again for fear your wrath might strike me down........ cut down on the shit talk.... up the audio discusion, get a life, and let your balls drop, you can't stay a pwning 12 year old forever

I recommend a razor blade press firmly and slid across the wrist.

Or, if you want to get creative, grab a solid rope and make sure it's only a few feet. Climb up a tall tree, wrap and tie it over a sturdy tree limb, wrap it around your neck and tie it tightly. Now jump.

Hopefully you won't fail at this, like you do at car audio.

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nG

 

[scarolina 10+ year member]

Yall are starting to sound like 2 13 year old girls arguing back and forth cotjones just drop it untill someone has heard, seen your system you can argue all day and no one is going to believe you so just go to the NC meet and let people see it.

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

Youre an idiot. Subs arent people, they dont care how much work theyre doing so long as youre not doing anything stupid to them. And of course a 15 will handle 25hz better, at frequencies that low the more air you can displace the better.. but thats not to say an 8 cant do it as well, because the design of the sub and the box and what power it is being fed can do a lot for a sub's output.

everytime the sub has to change frequencies a little distortion is produced esspecially when the sub is trying to play more than 1 at the same time... cutting the range of the sub in half makes it easier to handle its pre-configured range how does it not make sence?

 

[phantom240 5,000+ posts]

Yall are starting to sound like 2 13 year old girls arguing back and forth cotjones just drop it untill someone has heard, seen your system you can argue all day and no one is going to believe you so just go to the NC meet and let people see it.

rofl srsly.

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

It seems you only think ppl have a brain if they are a fan of JL audio lol

No offense //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

??? did he ever say anything about being a fan of JL?

 

[phantom240 5,000+ posts]

everytime the sub has to change frequencies a little distortion is produced esspecially when the sub is trying to play more than 1 at the same time... cutting the range of the sub in half makes it easier to handle its pre-configured range how does it not make sence?

If Im not mistaken, this is referred to as a sub's transient response, or ability to change frequencies without distorting or something to that effect. If you gotta have different sizes and crossovers due to its TR, your subs are teh **** and you fail.

 

[Imshirazy 10+ year member]

Youre an idiot. Subs arent people, they dont care how much work theyre doing so long as youre not doing anything stupid to them. And of course a 15 will handle 25hz better, at frequencies that low the more air you can displace the better.. but thats not to say an 8 cant do it as well, because the design of the sub and the box and what power it is being fed can do a lot for a sub's output.

What do you think my point is jackass.

Do you honestly think a speaker playing ambience, bass, hi hat, distorted guitar, clean, and much others is going to sound good at higher levels as a speaker that's playing much fewer notes? I even mentioned the box and other such shit in my post.

All your doing is being an *******, grow the **** up, it's pretty obvious what I meant dipshit.

Not to mention no ****ing shit larger surface area is better, why do you think i said 15? do you think the majority of average car stereo users understand surface area? hell few of them ever go past buying a head unit and a subwoofer system.

Burn in hell freak.

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

Yall are starting to sound like 2 13 year old girls arguing back and forth cotjones just drop it untill someone has heard, seen your system you can argue all day and no one is going to believe you so just go to the NC meet and let people see it.

when and where?

 

[phantom240 5,000+ posts]

What do you think my point is jackass.Do you honestly think a speaker playing ambience, bass, hi hat, distorted guitar, clean, and much others is going to sound good at higher levels as a speaker that's playing much fewer notes? I even mentioned the box and other such shit in my post.

All your doing is being an *******, grow the **** up, it's pretty obvious what I meant dipshit.

Not to mention no ****ing shit larger surface area is better, why do you think i said 15? do you think the majority of average car stereo users understand surface area? hell few of them ever go past buying a head unit and a subwoofer system.

Burn in hell freak.

First off, thats NOT what you implied and therefore its not obvious. You implied that 15's can get lower than other, smaller subs.. which is completely false. At the same token, 15's can outplay ANY size sub with similar motor structure and suspension due to its surface area if we use your logic. And yes, the majority understands surface area... but to what degree is the question. So in essence DIAF and have a nice day.

Oh and you also said something stupid to the effect that spreading the work out among subs, blah blah blah... Which makes no sense until you get to certain frequency ranges where subwoofers cant keep up...