2024 tacoma underseat SUB 10tw3 vs 12tw3???help!!!

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Going to sit tight & see what the actual specs truly are once released...

That's a good idea...if it turns out to be something you don't want, any quality box builder should be able to glass something into the space you want to use.

 

[slater]

That's a good idea...if it turns out to be something you don't want, any quality box builder should be able to glass something into the space you want to use.

Its a toss-up to me..
I did buy the 12" tw3 groundshaker box but would imagine out here in san diego I can easily flip it....
The thought of the sub being behind the seat sounds cleaner to me...
But wont be using the underseat storage for anything either...
Also the thought of the TT box having an option for 2 10's eliminates the thought of me hearing 1 10" & it wasnt enough in my mind & ear...
Thats why I opted for the 12"

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

It could've been a lot things tuning, power, the box as far as why a 10 didn't impress you. Truthfully there wouldn't be a huge difference between the same 10 and 12 in sound quality if box, tune, and power were the right for both

 

[slater]

It could've been a lot things tuning, power, the box as far as why a 10 didn't impress you. Truthfully there wouldn't be a huge difference between the same 10 and 12 in sound quality if box, tune, and power were the right for both

I get that, I said that early on. Had no idea how the 10” TW three in the ground shaker box was tuned, at that point there was no amp going to his front infinity so the sub could’ve been choked down to balance things out.
That being said, I have also heard a Tacoma Jl stealth box…
Same outcome in my opinion, you can hear the boom but minimal punch / feel..

 

[slater]

Do update us after the sub install. I am curious to know if the 12tw3 meets your expectations.

Sub sounds great & meets my needs for sure...
Its still not 2 ported 12's like I rocked back in the day, but for a single in a mini truck, dont think I could ask for more.
Glad I went with the 12 for sure.

 

[1aespinoza 10+ year member]

Sub sounds great & meets my needs for sure...
Its still not 2 ported 12's like I rocked back in the day, but for a single in a mini truck, dont think I could ask for more.
Glad I went with the 12 for sure.

Awesome! Glad you updated us, it makes it easier on others to make a solid decision. I would suggest listening to Tool for an eargasm.
On your previous posts you mentioned no punchiness from a 10tw3; does your 12tw3 dole out punchiness or could it do better?

 

[slater]

So the underseat storage area where the box is sitting-in....
Have a consistent rattle when bass hits on a rap song...
I lift the box just a bit & rattle gone, box is wrapped in carpet so can't be the box resting on the plastic contributing to the buzz / rattle...
Its a plastic underseat liner, & there's a separate outer perimeter trim piece...

Going to have to quickly pull the box out & give the liner & trim piece a good deadening..
Just curious what some thoughts are to better approach?
Since its 2 similar plastic materials touching & overlapping one another.
Best to use the hybrid closed cell foam stuff similar to sound skins?
or just use the 80mil amazon basics butyl / foil deadener & the weight / mass addition will resolve my issue..
Yes, overthinking as usual, just want to go in once..

 

[1aespinoza 10+ year member]

I lift the box just a bit & rattle gone, box is wrapped in carpet so can't be the box resting on the plastic contributing to the buzz / rattle...
Its a plastic underseat liner, & there's a separate outer perimeter trim piece...

This is pluzzling. You lift the box a bit closer to the seat's liner and the buzzing stops; yet the seat liner is the one that is buzzing? Could it be not the junction of the liner with the trim piece but a bare wire of the seat's wire grid hitting on the liner?

 

[slater]

This is pluzzling. You lift the box a bit closer to the seat's liner and the buzzing stops; yet the seat liner is the one that is buzzing? Could it be not the junction of the liner with the trim piece but a bare wire of the seat's wire grid hitting on the liner?

I roll around with the seat bottoms in the up position.
Still also does lowered.
Lifting part of the box up off the liner just a fuzz, lessens the violence......
hence the rattle gone!
I just need to deaden the plastics & questioning if there would be any benefit using the soft hybrid stuff since its plastic to plastic.

Im guessing not, just use the butyl / foil.....???

 

[1aespinoza 10+ year member]

Lifting part of the box up off the liner just a fuzz, lessens the violence......
hence the rattle gone!

What if you stuff a shirt in this crevice?

 

[slater]

I shoved my fingers in there's & put pressure on the plastics, pulling it away from the box, no change.
I need to add deadener.....

 

[slater]

Going to give this a bump, could use so advise as just want to do this once.
Getting some rattles from the underseat plastics..
Would deadening it with the butyl / foil deadener be sufficient or due to plastic to plastic overlap / contact of the liner, its best to use a closed cell foam hybrid like sound skins pro in this situation?
Thanks...

 

[Jimi77 5,000+ posts]

Going to give this a bump, could use so advise as just want to do this once.
Getting some rattles from the underseat plastics..
Would deadening it with the butyl / foil deadener be sufficient or due to plastic to plastic overlap / contact of the liner, its best to use a closed cell foam hybrid like sound skins pro in this situation?
Thanks...

If you're getting plastic rattling against something, then try putting foam between the parts. If it's a panel resonating, then you use a butyl deadener to weight it down and lower the frequency and amplitude of the resonance.

 

[slater]

Waiting for more butyl / foil to come in before I teardown...
I have lots of tesa tape...
Any decent sources of thin hybrid close cell foam matting to help where I can install it for the plastic on plastic contact that doesnt cost an arm & leg?
won't need a ton,
Only thing that ive ever see in person is sound skin pro I think...
But yes, there's areas that are plastic to plastic contact.
So once I tear into it, it will be a combination of corrections depending on what I see...

 

[Jimi77 5,000+ posts]

Waiting for more butyl / foil to come in before I teardown...
I have lots of tesa tape...
Any decent sources of thin hybrid close cell foam matting to help where I can install it for the plastic on plastic contact that doesnt cost an arm & leg?
won't need a ton,
Only thing that ive ever see in person is sound skin pro I think...
But yes, there's areas that are plastic to plastic contact.
So once I tear into it, it will be a combination of corrections depending on what I see...

The weather striping stuff at Home Depot works.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

The weather striping stuff at Home Depot works.

I had a fair bit of that stuff in my saturn