Id like to hear how those sound for you.Crisp/Warm or over bearingTweeters have made it to L.A. from Singapore. Should have them here in a few days.
Id like to hear how those sound for you.Crisp/Warm or over bearingTweeters have made it to L.A. from Singapore. Should have them here in a few days.
Hell, I'd like to hear the system period. I have Thursday and Friday off. I am going to remove the door panels and then the speaker pods. I will then install the Silverflutes and DD's in the pods. Hopefully with picsId like to hear how those sound for you.Crisp/Warm or over bearing
Looking good my man.. you finally heading the right direction.. slowly but surely.. Great choices in equipment btw. Everything looks solid. Wait till you start tuning this beast. You're gonna sh1t yourself for real lol.Well, this is the door set-up. Silverflute, Digital Designs, Alpine.
I am going to run the US Acoustics Barbara Ann 100 x 4 on the DD's and Alpines @ 4oms per channel
A US Acoustics Lisa will be bridged on the Silverflutes 170 x 2 @ 4ohms per channels
A US Acoustics Mike will run the Dayton Ultimax 10 1500 x 1 @ 1ohm
If this doesn't give me headroom for days I am gonna **** myself.
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Bills, Bills, and more Bills. Yeah, it's slow going but once everything is here and the sub box is built... the rest is going to go pretty quick. I decided to NOT install anything until I button down the sunroof leak. It has 4 drain lines in the sunroof... I fixed the front two with compressed air. The two rear lines are harder to deal with so I am taking down the headliner completely and I am going to put new headliner material on to replace the gray with black while I am at it.Looking good my man.. you finally heading the right direction.. slowly but surely.. Great choices in equipment btw. Everything looks solid. Wait till you start tuning this beast. You're gonna sh1t yourself for real lol.
The price was right on the Silverflutes and after some research I decided to give them a shot. My doors are on the large side so there is some airspace in them to work with... should be able to get some bottom end out of them. This is my first SQ attempt so down the road I will most likely try some Satori 6 1/2's... I'd really like to give the ScanSpeak Revelators a try.Curious why the Silver Flutes in a three way. They are not the best for mid bass which is what someone typically wants in a three way. In a two way they are ok, nothing special, but ok.
I ended up taking the Sony set back... they tried to tell me I couldn't return them even though I never even opened the box. They ended up giving me store credit. The credit turned into a used pair of 6x9's for the back dash of the G6 (Temporary) just so I could have speakers there with no rattling. They are wired the same as the factory monsoon 6x9's, I was very slick about that lol and even used the OEM connectors. I also used the credit to buy the DD 2.75" speakers and a few other misc. items. The SF's and DD's will be housed in the factory speaker pods which will shield them from water droplets. The picture shows the same model SF's in the same speaker pods as mine. I wish I had the backside pic but the woofer is almost fully covered. The inside of the door will have sound deadening and a foam plug behind the woofer, the door will be covered in sound deadener behind the door panel which will also have some deadening on it. I have speaker gasket material that will go behind each speakers mounting surface and Stinger fast rings to finish it all off.Sounds good. Just be careful with mid woofers not designed for car audio/in a car door installation. Their TS Parameters are not optimized for infinite baffle and they may have open voice coils that are exposed to the elements inside the door. The Silver Flutes don’t have exposed voice coils but the paper cone isn’t coated for car door use either. See if you can construct a rain shield out of either plastic or sound deadening to keep the dripping water from the glass above off the speaker. Scanspeak does make an autosound mid woofer https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/auto-woofers/scanspeak-discovery-autosound-16w/4434g-6.5-fiberglass-cone-woofer-each/ that would do well in a three way as a dedicated midbass woofer. Pair this with these tweeters https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/auto-tweeters/scanspeak-discovery-car-r1904/613001-autosound-tweeter-one-each/ and one of thier 4” mids and you would have a nice sounding system provided it’s installed and tuned properly.
What happened to the Sony component set?
It is in fact the Stinger fast rings... the package doesn't say what kind of foam it is nor does the website. Hmmm. Looks like open cell to me. I took a pic... you tell me?What sort of foam plug are you putting behind the speaker? I’m assuming it’s not an open cell foam plug that will retain water every time you wash the car, or it rains. I haven’t seen the Stinger fast rings, but if they are also open cell foam, your wasting time and money on those too.
Not raining on my parade I promise. This is why I am here on this site... I appreciate the input. What about the woofer from my eXcelons? It's the XR-1700P set in my Jeep.The fast rings will hold water after a little while, tried it myself and I don't think they actually work as advertised. The Fast Ring made no discernible difference in SQ with my installation and the only reason I got them in the first place was because they were free with a set of speakers I bought. Not trying to rain on your parade either but I would be surprised if those silver flutes sound better than those high res Sony's you had. The Sony tweeter might have been **** but I bet the woofer was half way decent. The Sony's are made for a car door with a higher total Q and a resonant frequency ~ 60-80. The Silver Flutes have an fs of about 37.5 and a total Q at a low .24. Without the air spring action offered by a smaller enclosure as they were designed to help the woofer out, the total Qtc of the system with the Flutes (total Q) will be low and bass response will suffer as a result. Attached is a graph I did in bassBox6 Pro showing an AudioFrog GS60 vs that Silver flute in a 1.5 cu ft enclosure simulating a car door so you can see what I mean. It has an fs of 80.5 and a QTS of .67 so the AudioFrog has a stiffer suspension more suited for the infinite baffle environment that is typical of a car door. The Silver Flute is in red and the GS60 in yellow.
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IDK about Kenwood speakers because I never ran them and I can’t model them because they don’t publish their TS Parameters so that should tell you something right there. I had one of their budget amplifiers once and it was horrible sounding. I can tell you that AudioFrog speakers are fantastic and the guy behind them is well respected in the car audio sound qaulity community, which is what I like. I’m not an SPL type of guy so I don’t give a **** if my system can’t hit 140 db. I just acquired the GB12/GB60/GB15 combo But haven’t installed them yet. If I was on a budget and wanted the best possible mid woofer for under $300 than I don’t know if the AudioFrog GS60 can be beat. If I wanted to try something different and unique that is designed for a car door than I would look at the Wavecor wf166tu02. https://www.parts-express.com/wavecor-wf166tu02-6-1-2-paper-cone-mid-woofer-4-ohm--298-1186 If I wanted a decent budget component set with everything than AudioFrog G60S or Pioneer Z series. By far the best budget tweeter I have ever experienced is the SB Acoustics SB26STCN-C000-4 tweeter and NVX makes a version called the X series with grills. If you want small format and as low or lower distortion than the Scanspeak D3004 for off axis or the R3004 on axis cannot be beat for the price. The AudioFrog GB10 is also a nice tweeter and they come with some nice installation accessories and are on par with the Scanspeak (own GB10 soon so can review later).Not raining on my parade I promise. This is why I am here on this site... I appreciate the input. What about the woofer from my eXcelons? It's the XR-1700P set in my Jeep.