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<blockquote data-quote="Jcsaudio" data-source="post: 8668515" data-attributes="member: 673752"><p>IDK about Kenwood speakers because I never ran them and I can’t model them because they don’t publish their TS Parameters so that should tell you something right there. I had one of their budget amplifiers once and it was horrible sounding. I can tell you that AudioFrog speakers are fantastic and the guy behind them is well respected in the car audio sound qaulity community, which is what I like. I’m not an SPL type of guy so I don’t give a shit if my system can’t hit 140 db. I just acquired the GB12/GB60/GB15 combo But haven’t installed them yet. If I was on a budget and wanted the best possible mid woofer for under $300 than I don’t know if the AudioFrog GS60 can be beat. If I wanted to try something different and unique that is designed for a car door than I would look at the Wavecor wf166tu02. <a href="https://www.parts-express.com/wavecor-wf166tu02-6-1-2-paper-cone-mid-woofer-4-ohm--298-1186" target="_blank">https://www.parts-express.com/wavecor-wf166tu02-6-1-2-paper-cone-mid-woofer-4-ohm--298-1186</a> If I wanted a decent budget component set with everything than AudioFrog G60S or Pioneer Z series. By far the best budget tweeter I have ever experienced is the SB Acoustics SB26STCN-C000-4 tweeter and NVX makes a version called the X series with grills. If you want small format and as low or lower distortion than the Scanspeak D3004 for off axis or the R3004 on axis cannot be beat for the price. The AudioFrog GB10 is also a nice tweeter and they come with some nice installation accessories and are on par with the Scanspeak (own GB10 soon so can review later). </p><p></p><p>Depending on on your expectations for sound qaulity you could be fine with less expensive components. I tried the Silver Flutes and wasn’t impressed with them. They had a muted midrange that was off putting. I’ve been running the stock Ford woofers active in y F150 and amped with a D8604 for a year up until this weekend and they sound really good and cost me nothing. It’s surprising actually! I started out budget minded like most everyone else and quickly moved up the line in qaulity as I learned more. There may be nothing wrong with Kenwood speakers or any other brand you choose, and compared to some stock speakers, they may be superior. Now I just happen to have some very high expectations for sound qaulity now so that is where I’m coming from. I just got an opportunity to audition an Audi at Sound in Motion in Boston MA with an Illusion Audio subwoofer and Dynaudio Esotec components. This is Dynaudios budget line! Let me tell you that system rocked. Smooth, great mid bass that you actually feel, and detail that rivals the best $1200 component sets out there. When I got back into my truck I was like ahhh man, LMAOL. If you ever get the chance to go to some meets and audition some cars than do it. You will learn a lot and figure out real quickly what sounds good and what doesn’t. I’m still in the process of installing the Frogs but can’t wait to listen to them. </p><p></p><p>I just installed some Image Dynamics XS57 mids in my truck, tuned them with the DSP and REW and I have to say they kind of **** right now. Kind of harsh in the male vocal range and a hollow sound too. Just got them in so I will give them some time to break in and do some more tuning but right now I’m not liking them. If they don’t improve than I’m taking them out. Good thing I didn’t pay full price for them. The X series mid woofers in my CX5 Sound much better, and smoother too, and the Focal mid woofers in my van are also better. </p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jcsaudio, post: 8668515, member: 673752"] IDK about Kenwood speakers because I never ran them and I can’t model them because they don’t publish their TS Parameters so that should tell you something right there. I had one of their budget amplifiers once and it was horrible sounding. I can tell you that AudioFrog speakers are fantastic and the guy behind them is well respected in the car audio sound qaulity community, which is what I like. I’m not an SPL type of guy so I don’t give a shit if my system can’t hit 140 db. I just acquired the GB12/GB60/GB15 combo But haven’t installed them yet. If I was on a budget and wanted the best possible mid woofer for under $300 than I don’t know if the AudioFrog GS60 can be beat. If I wanted to try something different and unique that is designed for a car door than I would look at the Wavecor wf166tu02. [URL="https://www.parts-express.com/wavecor-wf166tu02-6-1-2-paper-cone-mid-woofer-4-ohm--298-1186"]https://www.parts-express.com/wavecor-wf166tu02-6-1-2-paper-cone-mid-woofer-4-ohm--298-1186[/URL] If I wanted a decent budget component set with everything than AudioFrog G60S or Pioneer Z series. By far the best budget tweeter I have ever experienced is the SB Acoustics SB26STCN-C000-4 tweeter and NVX makes a version called the X series with grills. If you want small format and as low or lower distortion than the Scanspeak D3004 for off axis or the R3004 on axis cannot be beat for the price. The AudioFrog GB10 is also a nice tweeter and they come with some nice installation accessories and are on par with the Scanspeak (own GB10 soon so can review later). Depending on on your expectations for sound qaulity you could be fine with less expensive components. I tried the Silver Flutes and wasn’t impressed with them. They had a muted midrange that was off putting. I’ve been running the stock Ford woofers active in y F150 and amped with a D8604 for a year up until this weekend and they sound really good and cost me nothing. It’s surprising actually! I started out budget minded like most everyone else and quickly moved up the line in qaulity as I learned more. There may be nothing wrong with Kenwood speakers or any other brand you choose, and compared to some stock speakers, they may be superior. Now I just happen to have some very high expectations for sound qaulity now so that is where I’m coming from. I just got an opportunity to audition an Audi at Sound in Motion in Boston MA with an Illusion Audio subwoofer and Dynaudio Esotec components. This is Dynaudios budget line! Let me tell you that system rocked. Smooth, great mid bass that you actually feel, and detail that rivals the best $1200 component sets out there. When I got back into my truck I was like ahhh man, LMAOL. If you ever get the chance to go to some meets and audition some cars than do it. You will learn a lot and figure out real quickly what sounds good and what doesn’t. I’m still in the process of installing the Frogs but can’t wait to listen to them. I just installed some Image Dynamics XS57 mids in my truck, tuned them with the DSP and REW and I have to say they kind of **** right now. Kind of harsh in the male vocal range and a hollow sound too. Just got them in so I will give them some time to break in and do some more tuning but right now I’m not liking them. If they don’t improve than I’m taking them out. Good thing I didn’t pay full price for them. The X series mid woofers in my CX5 Sound much better, and smoother too, and the Focal mid woofers in my van are also better. [/QUOTE]
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