why puttin down a sub???

[Randy Savage 5,000+ posts]

spl = no brand preference. You have to be willing to try anything and everything.
That being said... the SX doesn't live up to its name as a daily driving woofer. It flat out does not take 1000 watts "RMS" before getting stinky... it also doesn't get as loud as it should in a low tuned box.

Fart boxes, the SX is fine... for SPL it works ok.... but for whatever reason it just doesn't handle much power in a low tuned box.

My 18SX flat out took 2 strapped CX1200's daily and flat out took 4 of them on burps.

This is in both 6 ft^3 tuned to 30, 9 ft^3 tuned to 33, and 11 ft^3 tuned to 33. Never smelled a **** thing.

Something I find funny is how dB Draggers come to opposite conclusions then you have. Mike Steirs had 2 strapped Goliaths on a pair of 12" SX's with no problems...you should ask Team Livewire what they think about the SX's //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

On another note, I can go on Termpro and probably find 15-20 guys running SX's dail with more then 1kw nominal and having no problems whatsoever.

 

[Spkrman]

My 18SX flat out took 2 strapped CX1200's daily and flat out took 4 of them on burps.
This is in both 6 ft^3 tuned to 30, 9 ft^3 tuned to 33, and 11 ft^3 tuned to 33. Never smelled a **** thing.

Something I find funny is how dB Draggers come to opposite conclusions then you have. Mike Steirs had 2 strapped Goliaths on a pair of 12" SX's with no problems...you should ask Team Livewire what they think about the SX's //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

On another note, I can go on Termpro and probably find 15-20 guys running SX's dail with more then 1kw nominal and having no problems whatsoever.

perhaps they dont actually use the power?

every setup I've seen/done with the SX's... in any box... you go over aprox 1000-1400 actual watts and they don't handle it without getting stinky. Recently did one 15 powered off a bx1605 @ 1 ohm... no stinky with 1600 watts! No, no stinky with 700 watts, that amp sucks.

How you get different results I have no idea.

Btw, high freq burps and low freq daily driving are 2 different things //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[SPL140.2 5,000+ posts]

what about the re se12's....if u put have 2 se12'a and a orion 1200d.....do u think it can pull atleast 145db's in the rite box
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just curious 2 know

may hit that depending upon vehicle //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[Randy Savage 5,000+ posts]

Well my personal experience tends to override what anyone will tell me...and I'm sure that's the same for plenty people out there. Like I said, I drove around with it in a few different boxes, daily driving, with no problems. I also burped it with my 4 cx1200's at .7 strapped a pair, with no problems.

But are you meaning to tell me that some of the loudest people in the world (Team Livewire members) are 'not actually using he power'?

c'mon now.

 

[80INCHES 5,000+ posts]

ok i was thinkin of a bandpass box tuned at 60hz with 48square inch port in a mazda millenia.....do think i can hit high 140's with 2 se12's and one orion 1200d

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[SPL140.2 5,000+ posts]

perhaps they dont actually use the power?
every setup I've seen/done with the SX's... in any box... you go over aprox 1000-1400 actual watts and they don't handle it without getting stinky. Recently did one 15 powered off a bx1605 @ 1 ohm... no stinky with 1600 watts! No, no stinky with 700 watts, that amp sucks.

How you get different results I have no idea.

Btw, high freq burps and low freq daily driving are 2 different things //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

I dont have any personal experiences with them but I just know what David and Marty told me and pretty much stated the same thing as spkrman //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[SPL140.2 5,000+ posts]

Well my personal experience tends to override what anyone will tell me...and I'm sure that's the same for plenty people out there. Like I said, I drove around with it in a few different boxes, daily driving, with no problems. I also burped it with my 4 cx1200's at .7 strapped a pair, with no problems.
But are you meaning to tell me that some of the loudest people in the world (Team Livewire members) are 'not actually using he power'?

c'mon now.

Are they using 12"sx's I noticed most of those people you listed on the last page are using MT's, 18", 32" and 15"s. the bigger subs should take more power than the 12"s

 

[SPL140.2 5,000+ posts]

ok i was thinkin of a bandpass box tuned at 60hz with 48square inch port in a mazda millenia.....do think i can hit high 140's with 2 se12's and one orion 1200d
80

Its possible

 

[Randy Savage 5,000+ posts]

I just said, Mike Steirs, 2 12" SX's. He's been using 12"s for the last few seasons IIRC.

 

[SPL140.2 5,000+ posts]

I just said, Mike Steirs, 2 12" SX's. He's been using 12"s for the last few seasons IIRC.

Mike Steirs is one of the loudest neon spl vehicles in the US except for David Dasilva I think itll be close but David is using 10"SX's. David mentioned getting his reconed a couple of times, had Mike ever get a recone????

 

[tRiGgEr 5,000+ posts]

the bigger subs should take more power than the 12"s

Not exactly correct...

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Are they using 12"sx's I noticed most of those people you listed on the last page are using MT's, 18", 32" and 15"s. the bigger subs should take more power than the 12"s

I assume you meant 12". lol They dont make a 32" MT. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif But wouldnt that be something!

 

[SPL140.2 5,000+ posts]

I assume you meant 12". lol They dont make a 32" MT. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif But wouldnt that be something!

All of those arnt MT's Im pretty sure Shawn Fleming is using a 32" RE Sub, thats what is stated on termpro

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

RE has a 32" subwoofer? Since when? XMX? Nobody is using an XMX in competition that I know of. But, Im no expert either. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[Randy Savage 5,000+ posts]

Shawn Fleming is using 4 18" MT's last I remember.

If we want to talk pure SPL and RE vs. Alpine....lol.