Same here... lol Ima runner... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/uhoh.gif.c07307dd22ee7e63e22fc8e9c614d1fd.gif
Was it his first time lifting because that may sound like a lot of a gain but if he was only lifting a 100 he was bound to skyrocket on his max. When i started lifting I could barely do 95 for 10 reps and within about 3 weeks I was up to 135 and that wasnt even consistent lifting.
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fatryan
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we do basically the same routine everyweek, changeing it up here and there. i usually never make it on thursday or friday, so i dunno what they do those days if they even go every thursday and friday, but mon, tue, and wed we do...
monday: chest and bis
-bench
-incline bench
-decline bench
-flys (machine)
-occasionally dumbell flys
-a few sets on a bench machine
-barbell curls
-reverse barbell curls
-hammer dumbell curls
-isolated dumbell curls
-they do preacher but the machine is too small for my longass forearms
tuesday: shoulders and back
-barbell military
-dumbell military
-arnold press
-front arm raises
-side arm raises
-barbell shrugs
-dumbell shrugs
-row
-lat pulldown
-them backward situps for lower back (i dunno real name)
wednesday: tris and abs
-skull crushers
-tri extension
-overhead tri extension
-tri extension machine
-reverse grip tri extension
-crunches
-leg raises
thatkidbob
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WOW... thats alot of excersizes per day... some people grow very well with workouts like that, however experiece has showed me that less sets worked best for me...
edit: you'll notice that we did very few machines, and no direct ab work... you get plenty ab work from overhead excercises...
my routine looked like this:
Back & Bi day
closegrip weighted chins
bent over barbell rows
t-bar rows OR machine rows
seated alternating DB curls
EZbar curls OR preachers
Chest & Tri day
Incline bench
straight bench
weighted chest dips
seated overhead DB press
closegrip bench OR pushdowns
Shoulder day
Standing military press (if we hit failure before 10, push presses until 10)
Seated DB press
DB shrugs OR machine shrugs
laterial raises
Leg Day
Squats
Deads
leg press (heavy and til failure)
leg extensions (we usually skipped these)
leg curls
seated, standing or leg press calf raises (heavy and til failure)
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fatryan
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yeah, we started with like 1 hour workout sessions, and t6hey kinda grew to like 2-2 1/2 hours lol. we dont even know where the time goes, tonight was 2 1/2 hours. about 1 1/2 hours just on bench. im a bigger fan of the back&bi chest&tri routine as opposed to my current one. but this was my one buddies routine, so i thought id give it a shot. makes more sense to do it my way though, that way your not working opposing muscles in the same day.
marleyskater420
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Please elaborate on this ECA stack, and where to get it.
I just got into lifting and am taking Cytogain/No-explode/Nitrix/ contemplating cell mass and saying peace to the nitrix.
What is a good "Im a noob and want to get healthy/ripped forum"?
I workout 5 days a week with 1/3/5 upper body and cardio, and 2/4 legs. I want to gain a lot of weight (Im 148, 6'0..yeah Im skinny) and would like to get to around 170 or so.
And honestly, I don't have time to go through forums that often. I get online maybe 2-3 times a week at that, so feel free to help as much as possible.
I do have a question: When you cycle off No-Xplode, what do you take? Just switch to another creatine? Or move to soley protein supplements? Im an uber noob so please help.
thatkidbob
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the ECA stack is a mild thermogenic stack... its aim is to increase metabolism and aid in burning fat. I tried it once, but didn't enjoy the heart palpitations... The caffeine is easy to get off the internet... you'll want 200mg capsules... The ephedrine can be purchased online as Asthma medication, the correct dosage is... *checks ephedrine stash* 25mg. Be careful of purchasing it online, as it can be used to synthesize crystal meth (a VERY potent thermogenic compound lol) and you don't want to find yourself on any FBI watchlists... the aspirin is easy enough to track down, but i can't remember the correct dosage...
search bodybuilding.com's forum for info on ramping the dosage up... i can't remember it offhand...
creatine is actually an ok supplement...
get straight up micronized creatine powder... (look for micronized or creapure, those are the keywords that let you know its the good stuff). Take a teaspoon with something sugary, and you'll be good.
except for cretine, most legal supplements do next to nothing. don't waste your money.
The main thing is to eat. i averaged 3000 calories a day, 3500 on the high side... My diet wasn't very strict, i didn't have cheat days, i ate what i wanted to. BUT, that said, most of my daily intake came from milk, oats, PB, protein powder, eggs, chicken and raw straight out of the can tuna lol.
Getting your diet together is the main issue... the working out part is easy. Once you figure out what excercises and how many sets work for you, you can just hit auto pilot. For me, the big mass building excercises were weighted chin ups, weighted chest dips, incline DB bench, squats, deads, and standing military press. Most people will have success focusing their workouts around these excercises.
since it isn't a steroid you can do whatever you want after coming off of No-Xplode... personally i'd drop it and start taking a regular creatine powder... there is no need to cycle on and off of the stuff, you can take it every day, no problem.
I'm around your size right now, so i can definitely relate to what you're saying. I'm actually about to get back in the gym and see how fast i can get back to 180 @ 7% //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
post up your routine and your diet... those are the main things that hold people back.
search bodybuilding.com's forum for info on ramping the dosage up... i can't remember it offhand...
creatine is actually an ok supplement...
get straight up micronized creatine powder... (look for micronized or creapure, those are the keywords that let you know its the good stuff). Take a teaspoon with something sugary, and you'll be good.
except for cretine, most legal supplements do next to nothing. don't waste your money.
The main thing is to eat. i averaged 3000 calories a day, 3500 on the high side... My diet wasn't very strict, i didn't have cheat days, i ate what i wanted to. BUT, that said, most of my daily intake came from milk, oats, PB, protein powder, eggs, chicken and raw straight out of the can tuna lol.
Getting your diet together is the main issue... the working out part is easy. Once you figure out what excercises and how many sets work for you, you can just hit auto pilot. For me, the big mass building excercises were weighted chin ups, weighted chest dips, incline DB bench, squats, deads, and standing military press. Most people will have success focusing their workouts around these excercises.
since it isn't a steroid you can do whatever you want after coming off of No-Xplode... personally i'd drop it and start taking a regular creatine powder... there is no need to cycle on and off of the stuff, you can take it every day, no problem.
I'm around your size right now, so i can definitely relate to what you're saying. I'm actually about to get back in the gym and see how fast i can get back to 180 @ 7% //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
post up your routine and your diet... those are the main things that hold people back.
marleyskater420
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Can you take the ECA stack while on No-xplode?
What is a good creatine powder that you would recommend for when I get off of No-xplode? I was told you take creatine for a month or so, and then layoff. Are you saying it is ok to take everyday? Not in large doses, but lets say, after a month of taking it everyday, the next month take it just on days I workout?
My diet.....whatever I can eat whenever..my daily schedule is so wack that it is hard to maintain meals....I really need to get on that...
Ill post up my workout tommorow. Its pretty basic. 2 chests/2 shoulder/2 back/ 2 leg/cardio 20-30minutes/abs/lat
By 2 I mean number of excersizes working that muscle group. I usually do about 3 sets per excersize. Lately I've been doing a little more on top of this workout (maybe some biceps and some triceps) but nothing much more than that. I go to 24hr so they gave me one of those workout schedule things. I work for Starbucks so I got a good deal on their whole fitness thing, so I figured why not? Ya know?
Anyway, thank you for all the help. Last year I tried to get into this but didn't have the motivation I do now. I love working out and would go 7 days a week if I could. I really appreciate all the help.
-Tyler
thatkidbob
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There's no point to cycling on and off of creatine because it decreases effectiveness (you end up having to load up on creatine over and over again) and theres no harm in continuing to use it.
You CAN use No-Xplode and the ECA stack simultaniouly... i'd be concerned about keeping the total amount of caffeine around the amount ditacted by the ECA dosing scheme, and about blood pressure related ish from the NOX.
Do you do all of that stuff every day? A full body workout like that can be good near the beginning while you're still getting newbie gains, but once thats over you'll benefit from more sets and more muslce group specific excercises...
edit: just noticed a question... i used AST micronized creatine... good stuff.
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marleyskater420
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Thanks for the response.
I have been doing full body workouts the past few times. I just seem to have enough energy to do so. Today I cut it to only 10 minutes of cardio though.
Here were my excersizes:
Chest
Seated Chest Press:3 sets
Bench DB CP:3 sets
Shoulder:
Seated DB shoulder press:3 sets
Seated machine shoulder press:3 sets
Biceps:
Bi curls:3 sets
Triceps:
Overhead tricep curls:3 sets
Lats:
Lat pulldown:4 sets
Back:
Back extension:3 sets
Legs:
Single leg squatdown:2 sets
10 minutes of cardio to begin with
Reverse crunch:3 sets
Oblique ab crunch:2 sets on each side
Ball crunch(on bouncy ball thing and do crunch):80 or so
Random ab excersize:40
regular crunches:50
This takes roughly 1 1/2-2hrs to do for me, depending on how much rest I do in between each excersize and whatnot.
I tried some chest dips today...I could only do around 6 or so...those things are hard!
I cant seem to get enough calories in a day to gain weight, so I am still at 148, but tonight I am stopping by the store to get some food for the next few days.
Is endothil-CR a joke. I have heard a few people talk about it and read the info from their site. What do you all think?
I am not wanting to get locked up or wanting to take such a short cut to endanger my health on a rapid rate.
I am:
6'0"
185
More of a endurance runner build.
I just want to be more defined, like a little more built than your average Abercrombie model. Full waist up package.
If you would please, just recommend a few supplements that will advance me quicker.
Thanks,
Ben
I am not wanting to get locked up or wanting to take such a short cut to endanger my health on a rapid rate.
I am:
6'0"
185
More of a endurance runner build.
I just want to be more defined, like a little more built than your average Abercrombie model. Full waist up package.
If you would please, just recommend a few supplements that will advance me quicker.
Thanks,
Ben
Methyl 1 alpha
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I have friends cycling this right now and both are showing VERY noticable gains after 4 weeks (since rugby started). they should be tapering with formadrol soon
I will probably wind up being the Methyl 1 D guinea pig as m1a is getting harder to get ahold of. Caffeine + Yohimbine + m1a + proper diet (also omega 3 fish oils, lots 2g of protein/per pound) = MASSIVE gains
I will let you know how this works out
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I have friends cycling this right now and both are showing VERY noticable gains after 4 weeks (since rugby started). they should be tapering with formadrol soon
I will probably wind up being the Methyl 1 D guinea pig as m1a is getting harder to get ahold of. Caffeine + Yohimbine + m1a + proper diet (also omega 3 fish oils, lots 2g of protein/per pound) = MASSIVE gains
I will let you know how this works out
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fatryan
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you **** skinny *****. you havent been on this forum at all, preston took your place! ah ****, well, you should use no xplode (or other creatine suppliment) before and after you lift. also, take plenty of protein all day every day especially right after u lift. but def dont limit it to just whey protein. you need all the different kinds u can get, whey, egg, beef, chicken, tuna. just eat a fvck ton of it. and if your a skinny *****, def get some weight gainer, GNC makes mass XXX which has like 800 calories per serving. that stuff will get you real jacked. dont do an ECA stack unless you want to cut, which it sounds like u def dont need to cut.
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