How Many of You Are SAVED?

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I understand your point as well, I just have a hard time reducing all that Jesus and the Father went through to "no sacrifice" just because it was temporary rather then permenent (ended in victory, rather then defeat). The context of your definition only takes into account the beginning and the end of a situation, negating everything in between. Loss does not occur as a end result only, it can occur as part of a process or journey like Jesus' situation and the analogy you mentioned. Loss has never had to be permenent in order to qualify as loss. Jesus had to return to the Father in order for their to be victory, that doesn't mean there was not a great price paid along the way. When something costs you a great deal, that too can be defined as a "sacrifice."
Our definations of sacrifice will just never agree.

 
Just because something of good fortune happens, it doesn't mean that you can align it with an ideological character.
My point is that what people call luck, coincidence, fate, circumstance or whatever, I happen to call it Jesus. Thats it! Thats all. No extras. No...."you see I am right"...none of that. This is how "I" choose to see it.

 
My point is that what people call luck, coincidence, fate, circumstance or whatever, I happen to call it Jesus. Thats it! Thats all. No extras. No...."you see I am right"...none of that. This is how "I" choose to see it.
YOU'RE WRONG! YOU'RE WRONG!!!!!!!!!1111111

Just Kidding //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif In one of those moods today //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 
Just Kidding //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif In one of those moods today //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif
that time of the month?

 
36 pages of this argument? Can't tell this is a touchy subject.

Its like arguing abortion, no one ever wins the arguement. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/satan.gif.9c6a335ed7aeeed3ee273e573f1fcaac.gif

 
First off, I will say that I do attend Church. I guess you could say that I am even a born-again Christian. I am not ashamed to admit it. I guess you could even say that I am PROUD and honored to be an active Christian. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gifYou know, I have been thinking. I have recently talked to my friends and others about GOD and JESUS. Some realize what time we are in. Some of them really didn't seem to care what I was telling them.

I know that I had to try to bring them into Church because I don't want their blood on my hands. So, why not talk to my fellow members on the forum?

So, how many of you are actually SAVED? I am not concerned about denomination because to me it doesn't matter...just as long as you are an active Christian.

I'm not looking for any flaming or anything but if that's what you feel, then so be it. I just pray for each and every one of you BUT, my prayers can't change your salvation. There is only one person whom you can go through. That is JESUS CHRIST! Remember, time is short. Don't be foolish.
I was saved from christianity... whew.. grew up mormon.. happily Taoist by nature...

 
I just think it's funny the one thing on this website thats about God is probably the longest post that has ever been posted on this website... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/imdaman.gif.bc6c552e19aa4ad8c47461144f40eb1a.gif

 
I just think it's funny the one thing on this website thats about God is probably the longest post that has ever been posted on this website... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/imdaman.gif.bc6c552e19aa4ad8c47461144f40eb1a.gif
hahahahah you think this is the longest post on this website? hahaha

 
hahahahah you think this is the longest post on this website? hahaha

No not the longest, but it's in the top 5 which is still quite a statement considering we're in a Car Audio Forum.

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Personally I think it's cool. People need an outlet to talk about these kind of subjects. Controversy and all. Let's shed some light and see what stands up to scrutiny.

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