In the late 90's I had a black g body with 20 12's door g consistent 165's. My shop built a shop demo vehicle which was a little red geo metro with 2 Armageddon 15's powered by 2 us amp vlx4000's. That car did 168's. I can't remember the model # of the Kove's beneath the Armageddon subs, but we had an issue with the tinsel leads touching each other and blowing up amps. This was eventually fixed by woven tinsel leads but not sure if that had anything to do with them closing down. A couple owns them now but its all Bluetooth speakers and portable audio