Help installing alpine deck!

[infamous_e46 5,000+ posts]

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/car-audio-classifieds/473464-bnib-alpine-radio-harness.html

 

[Bfat567 10+ year member]

Try it on a friends harness as CrysisMaker suggested. Or maybe get a power probe and test putting direct power and grounds to the deck with it. I cant think of any other ways but im sure someone more knowledgable will chime in.

 

[kr15 5,000+ posts]

only friend i know with an alpine wont let me go in his dash, afraid to void warranty with shop...if it makes a difference, i know that the unit recieved power, but i guess it wouldnt turn on anyway

 

[FenixAudio 10+ year member]

those wires should not matter. the red and black are really the only ones that should effect that.

incorrect, the yellow wire must have 12v constant, red gets 12v switched. Black is ground. if your unit is not turning on you will need to test with a Digital multi meter($5 at harbor freight tools) to make sure you are getting voltage to both of these wires.

the orange wire is not needed, all it does is dim the head unit when the lights are on. the pink wire if audio interupt for adding a bluetooth unit to the deck.

are you installing the deck in the 99 malibu? if so this is not a tough ting to do. i can give you all the wire colors from memory ifyou need them. every gm has been the same since the year 1. let me know if you have any questions. my info is on my wed site. fenixaudio.com

 

[CrysisMaker 10+ year member]

incorrect, the yellow wire must have 12v constant, red gets 12v switched. Black is ground. if your unit is not turning on you will need to test with a Digital multi meter($5 at harbor freight tools) to make sure you are getting voltage to both of these wires.
the orange wire is not needed, all it does is dim the head unit when the lights are on. the pink wire if audio interupt for adding a bluetooth unit to the deck.

are you installing the deck in the 99 malibu? if so this is not a tough ting to do. i can give you all the wire colors from memory ifyou need them. every gm has been the same since the year 1. let me know if you have any questions. my info is on my wed site. fenixaudio.com

He's on the money dude. And GM hasnt changed anything in years as far as electrical goes like FenixAudio said. And if it doesnt work at the harness have you tried hooking it up directly to the battery? Or in another car? If it was me, Id let you try your deck on my harness cuz thats what friends do...

 

[FenixAudio 10+ year member]

if he hard wired it tothe cars wires then he should be fine. ive put in 1000's of decks and never had a "bad" harness. only issues i had was pins falling out of harness of some jensens and other shitty decks. other then that usea meter and you will find the problem.

also, you do not havet o wire it to the battery, you can go to the ign harness. its right next to the radio anyway in that car. you can get both 12 and switched right there next to the radio opening.

thanks for the back up crysismaker ive been doign this profssionally for 10 years, and im mecp master certified. i can answer jsut about anything.

 

[CrysisMaker 10+ year member]

thanks for the back up crysismaker ive been doign this profssionally for 10 years, and im mecp master certified. i can answer jsut about anything.

Dude, its not a problem FenixAudio! On this site I only want to be professional when I give advice or help people out like this. I suggested the battery thing because its a direct power source, and would help him figure out the problem. If you have any other problems or anything kr15, let us know. We'll help you.

 

[CrysisMaker 10+ year member]

OK I jus thought of something. On the Alpine harness, does it have inline fuses on the YELLOW wire and possibly the RED wire? If it does have you checked those fuses? My Clarion has fuses on both those wires, and I know Alpines have them too, a lot of the newer and more advanced units do anyway. Check it out and let us know.

 

[FenixAudio 10+ year member]

again, go get a dmm and test the wires coming from the car and at the deck. this will tell you everything. the meter does not lie

i had a clarion do that to me yesterday. it was a cz200, i dont know why thats fuse is there anyway. all cars are fused alongthe constant line ne way.

 

[kr15 5,000+ posts]

just talked to seller, and he said he had this problem on initial install because the HU harness was loose..he told me to secure the harness in the HU tight and retry it...he also said he has another Alpine harness compatible that he will send if this doesnt work....

No, there are not fuses on any wires. Only the little 5a fuse on the deck which is good.

Yes it is going in the malibu. I am pretty well versed with the wiring diagram as I have put multiple decks in this vehicle. When i put my Pioneer back in, it took me less than 5 minutes (my pioneer has less wires then alpine; no pink and no orange)

thanks for the help guys. Im going to get a DMM...what wires do i test? Power and ignition? And they should read what? 12.8?

 

[CrysisMaker 10+ year member]

Yes get the DMM. Test the yellow and red for starters and see if they have power. The ignition wire as you may already know should only have a current when the key is on. It should read around 12v when the car is off, and should read anywhere from about 12.5 to 14.4v when the car is running. When you get the DMM, let us know what your findings are if you need more help.

You welcome for the help kr15.

 

[FenixAudio 10+ year member]

Yes get the DMM. Test the yellow and red for starters and see if they have power. The ignition wire as you may already know should only have a current when the key is on. It should read around 12v when the car is off, and should read anywhere from about 12.5 to 14.4v when the car is running. When you get the DMM, let us know what your findings are if you need more help.
You welcome for the help kr15.

yellow 12.2 or above with car OFF 14.4 with car on

red 12.2 or higher with key turned 14.4 with car running 0 with car off and keys out.

 

[CrysisMaker 10+ year member]

Alright thos are good findings. Thats exactly what you want. Now that narrows it down to the deck. Check all connections, clean them if you can, even the faceplate contacts.

 

[QuikSilverRS91 10+ year member]

Test the quality of the ground. Put one meter lead on the ground (black) wire and the other meter lead on a chassis ground (bare metal somewhere that connects to the chassis.. get creative). Flip the meter setting over to ohms. You should have a very low reading. Anything over 3 ohms and I'd be checking my ground connection (or just running a new ground wire).

Oh an FenixAudio, the meter never lies but sometimes it can be misleading //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[FenixAudio 10+ year member]

not if you test correctly