Amp/Sub pair help

[bulatz]

Hello im trying hard to learn myself about this stuff but i just don't get audio numbers.

I have a Rockford fosgate punch p200.2 amp
it has a bridged power 200 x 1
i need to replace my 2 subwoofer speakers and i went to local car audio shop
they wanted to sell me 2 pheonix gold 12 rx2 speakers which are 12 inch 200w, was about $450-500 im trying to get something little cheaper perhaps and do it myself.
i cant find a 4 ohm 12 inch 200w speaker on crutchfield they are all 250-300w should i buy from a different place then or can i still get 250-300w speakers or is that to strong.

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[Doxquzme Premium Member]

Just to tease:

Amazon product ASIN B0007XV5FY
$120

2 of these wired at 4ohms each:

HOSTILE 12" Subwoofer

Our HOSTILE series subwoofers balance budget-friendly prices while maintaining the legendary Black Brick Audio performance and quality. The HOSTILE 12" subwoofer produces deep lows and clear mids loaded into a compact, yet attractive unit. The build features an iron basket coated in a wrinkle...

blackbrickaudio.com

$140

One of these at 4 ohms bridged - 370watts per channel:

400 WATT RMS CLASS D 4-CHANNEL AMPLIFIER FULL RANGE

The best way to improve the sound of your system is to power your speakers with our 4 channel amplifier. Your head unit shouldn't power your subwoofer and it shouldn't power your speakers either. Full range digital multi-channel 400 watt RMS class D amplifier stable at 2 OHM stereo or 4 OHM...

blackbrickaudio.com

$69

Total: 329 plus tax.

Some systems are out of reach, for others there's MasterCard!

 

[Doxquzme Premium Member]

What size is the box you have right now? You are worrying about the wrong thing. Speaker wattage ratings are relative. You are not going to find a decent sub that only TAKES 100 watts. The rating is there to guide you regarding the application you have and what the speaker is designed to withstand. Any 200 to5000-watt woofer can be driven by your RF amplifier. Efficiency is going to be the more important specification if you decide to keep that amp.

 

[huberoy123 10+ year member]

Hello im trying hard to learn myself about this stuff but i just don't get audio numbers.

I have a Rockford fosgate punch p200.2 amp
it has a bridged power 200 x 1
i need to replace my 2 subwoofer speakers and i went to local car audio shop
they wanted to sell me 2 pheonix gold 12 rx2 speakers which are 12 inch 200w, was about $450-500 im trying to get something little cheaper perhaps and do it myself.
i cant find a 4 ohm 12 inch 200w speaker on crutchfield they are all 250-300w should i buy from a different place then or can i still get 250-300w speakers or is that to strong.

I would contact Crutchfield support to get their suggestion. I would take a chance 250 -300 watts. Your amp can drive (100 watts RMS x 2 at 2 ohms)

 

[audiobaun 5,000+ posts]

Just to tease:

Amazon product ASIN B0007XV5FY
$120

2 of these wired at 4ohms each:

HOSTILE 12" Subwoofer

Our HOSTILE series subwoofers balance budget-friendly prices while maintaining the legendary Black Brick Audio performance and quality. The HOSTILE 12" subwoofer produces deep lows and clear mids loaded into a compact, yet attractive unit. The build features an iron basket coated in a wrinkle...

blackbrickaudio.com

$140

One of these at 4 ohms bridged - 370watts per channel:

400 WATT RMS CLASS D 4-CHANNEL AMPLIFIER FULL RANGE

The best way to improve the sound of your system is to power your speakers with our 4 channel amplifier. Your head unit shouldn't power your subwoofer and it shouldn't power your speakers either. Full range digital multi-channel 400 watt RMS class D amplifier stable at 2 OHM stereo or 4 OHM...

blackbrickaudio.com

$69

Total: 329 plus tax.

Some systems are out of reach, for others there's MasterCard!

Thats pretty Dirt Cheap for a sub stage!! These subs are still available

Javelin Series Dual 10

Description Specifications Size Audio Legion’s JAV2X10D4 is a ported enclosure featuring two 10

audiolegion.com

The amp is used, but you still get a 1 yr warranty provided. I recently ran across this page as it popped up on my Ebay stuff/Alerts.

Used CT Sounds CT-400.1D 400 Watts RMS Monoblock Car Audio Amplifier 850021258818 | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Used CT Sounds CT-400.1D 400 Watts RMS Monoblock Car Audio Amplifier at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!

www.ebay.com

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175958971012?mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&customid=link&campid=5335951755&toolid=20001&mkevt=1

What vehicle do you have, or want this to go in? What Radio or HU do you have?? You may need an LOC? id put the RF amp on the front stage and get a component set

Rockford Fosgate RF-HLC4

4-channel line output converter

www.crutchfield.com

SoundQubed QS-6.5 Car Audio Component Speaker Set Woofer Tweeter Crossover Pair | eBay

Installing the SoundQubed QS-6.5 Component Set requires 2.46” mounting depth and 5.59” cut out for the mid level component and. 51” of mounting depth and 1.73” of cutout for the included tweeter. Need a glassy smooth midrange and crystal clear highs?.

www.ebay.com

 

[audiobaun 5,000+ posts]

You could get by with this wire for the components with wire ran inside the vehicle be alright.

Amazon product ASIN B0848L385Y

 

[audiobaun 5,000+ posts]

You can rewire those AUDIO LEGION dvc4 ohm subs in that enclosure to a 4 ohm final load and use that RF amp Bridged to 4 ohms by this $ohm final load diagram. prob take you 15 -30 min total taking your time

Subwoofer Wiring Diagrams for Two 4 Ohm Dual Voice Coil Speakers

www.the12volt.com

 

[HardofWhoring]

The problem as I see it is: You are trying to build a sub setup for the lowest wattage you can possibly find, all because you have an amp that's worth about $50 new. 200w x 1 is nothing. It's not enough power to drive any real sub. You can definitely find lower wattage subs that are in that range, I know kicker has some but why? That amp is not designed for a sub, it's just (technically) capable of a really, low powered one.

Do you want a sub or not? You're going to spend more to find one for that low wattage, then you could spend just finding a package deal.

If both of those settings you listed are RMS, then you can make it work, and your amp should give you most of what the sub can do. Even that small of a sub, you're going to leave some on the table.

Stop wasting your time with the 2ch amp if you want a subwoofer.

 

[audiobaun 5,000+ posts]

Hello im trying hard to learn myself about this stuff but i just don't get audio numbers.

I have a Rockford fosgate punch p200.2 amp
it has a bridged power 200 x 1
i need to replace my 2 subwoofer speakers and i went to local car audio shop
they wanted to sell me 2 pheonix gold 12 rx2 speakers which are 12 inch 200w, was about $450-500 im trying to get something little cheaper perhaps and do it myself.
i cant find a 4 ohm 12 inch 200w speaker on crutchfield they are all 250-300w should i buy from a different place then or can i still get 250-300w speakers or is that to strong.

There is really Vague information left on the Table here that could be very useful to determine just exactly what you are trying to accomplish? And what kind of real recommendations can be made for examples as followed;
1= What Vehicle- Year and Model?
2= Budget?
3= What Kind of Radio =Brand,and Model#
4= Stock Alternator,? How many Amps? A 110or 130? What type and size is your battery(CCA,CA,RES)? Lead or AGM?
5=What size enclosure do you have and what type? Ported or sealed? Pics would Help.
6= what Subwoofers do you have Now that need replacing? Make and Model #
There are several SVC4 ohm Subs out there. We could recommend several. Polk Audio has some really decent SVC4 ohm Subs. American Bass has some even.
7= Are you happy with running that type of sub stage? That Ohm Load and that kind of power?
8= Do you want a louder sub Stage?

Amazon product ASIN B01MTYBUOR

2x American Bass Car Audio 12" Subwoofers 2" Dual Voice Coil 4 Ohm 1200W XO-1244 - Walmart.com

Arrives by Thu, Oct 19 Buy 2x American Bass Car Audio 12" Subwoofers 2" Dual Voice Coil 4 Ohm 1200W XO-1244 at Walmart.com

www.walmart.com

Fingerhut - Polk Audio DB+ Series Ultra-Marine Certified 10" Dual Voice Coil Subwoofer

Get the credit you deserve. Instant application results. Shop top national brands.

www.fingerhut.com

Amazon product ASIN B00TSUDOYM
Amazon product ASIN B07W1C6Z6D
Amazon product ASIN B00JDUIK8W
Amazon product ASIN B01MEH098I
There are Subs all over the Internet with a little time spent to search for your budget and for what will fit in your existing enclosure. You may even need to do a little cutting to get a new sub in or filing down? Subs All over the Place on the Internet

 

[nauc 10+ year member]

id get 1 good 12" sub and the right box and amp for it

 

[bulatz]

The problem as I see it is: You are trying to build a sub setup for the lowest wattage you can possibly find, all because you have an amp that's worth about $50 new. 200w x 1 is nothing. It's not enough power to drive any real sub. You can definitely find lower wattage subs that are in that range, I know kicker has some but why? That amp is not designed for a sub, it's just (technically) capable of a really, low powered one.

Do you want a sub or not? You're going to spend more to find one for that low wattage, then you could spend just finding a package deal.

If both of those settings you listed are RMS, then you can make it work, and your amp should give you most of what the sub can do. Even that small of a sub, you're going to leave some on the table.

Stop wasting your time with the 2ch amp if you want a subwoofer.

The problem as I see it is: You are trying to build a sub setup for the lowest wattage you can possibly find, all because you have an amp that's worth about $50 new. 200w x 1 is nothing. It's not enough power to drive any real sub. You can definitely find lower wattage subs that are in that range, I know kicker has some but why? That amp is not designed for a sub, it's just (technically) capable of a really, low powered one.

Do you want a sub or not? You're going to spend more to find one for that low wattage, then you could spend just finding a package deal.

If both of those settings you listed are RMS, then you can make it work, and your amp should give you most of what the sub can do. Even that small of a sub, you're going to leave some on the table.

Stop wasting your time with the 2ch amp if you want a subwoofer.

 

[bulatz]

Makes sense I use the amp and sub cause I got it free and came with my first car lol I've had them like 15 years never had a problem it bumps good enough for me I guess maybe I'll just buy 2 new subs same kind of the one that blew out they only 75w Fosgate then maybe I'll get upgraded amp/subs later thanks for help

 

[Doxquzme Premium Member]

Don't mind the (affectionally known as) BASSHEAD zealots. That system that I recommended at $329 and some change will put out TONS of bass for daily driving pleasure, LOTS! That amp on sale for $69 puts out 370 watts of power bridged x2. That's the same as a 740 watt monoblock!

Run with it and then come back and share how awesome it sounds, I think that you'll be impressed!

Did something very similar for my grandson, he LOVES it! He's running a GM-D8601 to a dual 4 ohm, 12" NVX around the same price, wired to 2 ohms. He never comes close to pushing it all the way and that pioneer amp puts out 500 watts at 2ohms. After using the 2 12's you had and moving to that ported box (of which I matched to the performance of the 12's I suggested) would be surprised if you were not blown away at the difference.

 

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GRS 12SW-4HE 12" Paper Cone Rubber Surround High Excursion Subwoofer 4 OhmGRS 12SW-4HE 12" High Excursion SubwooferEngineered for extended low frequency response and flexibilityThe GRS 12SW-4HE 12” high excursion subwoofer from GRS is an ideal replacement driver for existing subwoofer systems or...

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I'd look at running one of these on that power

 

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GRS 12SW-4HE 12" Paper Cone Rubber Surround High Excursion Subwoofer 4 OhmGRS 12SW-4HE 12" High Excursion SubwooferEngineered for extended low frequency response and flexibilityThe GRS 12SW-4HE 12” high excursion subwoofer from GRS is an ideal replacement driver for existing subwoofer systems or...

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I'd look at running one of these on that power

I've built several inexpensive HT subs around that driver and other GRS woofers, they are surprisingly well-made!