12" SQ Sub on a cheap budget

[i2ain2thunder 10+ year member]

Infinity reference will suite your needs. If you can handle higher power I agree with the Dayton HO. But for budget sq and 300 watts i'd say the infinity.

 

[joom 10+ year member]

Another inexpensive yet good sounding sub Boston Acoustic G1 about 59 bucks or even the G112ps loaded enclosure like 89 at Sonic.

 

[copene]

Would this box work well with the Dayton 12" after being stuffed? Would the Massive Audio NX5 amp match up well with this sub?

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_7589_Sonic-Sub-Box-1H12-0.7-Gray.html

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_27733_Massive-Audio-NX5.html

 

[naughtyca 10+ year member]

somebody is selling dual skar vvx 12 that might fit your budget on sub classifieds and power them with apsm 1500 ($121 at 3kings audio vendor here) I have experienced these sub on a sealed enclosure and they hit the low end really nice and smooth

here's the link

http://www.caraudio.com/forums/subwoofer-classifieds/578787-fs-2-skar-vvx-12s-d4.html

 

[inspector3711]

Infinity reference will suite your needs.

Onlinecarstereo has the reference for a very good price. I got the 1262W and it's very pleasing.

 

[thewongster]

Choices, choices... You all have been very helpful so far. I was leaning on the Alpine, and have really looked into the Dayton HO, now the infinity? can anyone else vouch for them over the newer Type-S?

 

[i2ain2thunder 10+ year member]

I've had the alpine, the infinity, and the dayton.

For comparison

Infinity has great SQ and good sensitivity it can get loud off low watts and sound good doing it, but it cannot handle high power.

Alpine Type S has good SQ will get moderately loud, a type R will ger very loud and hits the low lows well, but sq will be lacking a bit

Dayton HO has the best SQ and will get loud, but it requires more power.

In my opinion all very nice budget subs.

As for the question about the amp and enclosure on sonic, that enclosure will actually work very well for the HO 12, that volume is very close to the necessary size needed to have as flat response as possible from that sub, that being said you may want to mount the motor side of the sub on the outside of the enclosure for the best sound. I don't like prefab boxes, but if they are done right, they are just fine for a sealed setup. I would look into a nicer amplifier though, I just don't think that one is efficient enough for you, don't have any experience with it, but I'd go with something else. Maybe check out the MB Quart Onyx 1000D It will have a little overhead as far as power goes.

 

[thewongster]

I heard you got it for 50 shipped? how so if you don't mind me asking

 

[i2ain2thunder 10+ year member]

I heard you got it for 50 shipped? how so if you don't mind me asking

few years ago, i guess prices may have changed, but I got a type r brand new from best buy, the single voice coil for 50. It was a special sale, but if you search hard on the internet, even ebay you can find them for close to 50. I wouldn't pay more than 75 for one.

 

[copene]

I've had the alpine, the infinity, and the dayton.
For comparison

Infinity has great SQ and good sensitivity it can get loud off low watts and sound good doing it, but it cannot handle high power.

Alpine Type S has good SQ will get moderately loud, a type R will ger very loud and hits the low lows well, but sq will be lacking a bit

Dayton HO has the best SQ and will get loud, but it requires more power.

In my opinion all very nice budget subs.

As for the question about the amp and enclosure on sonic, that enclosure will actually work very well for the HO 12, that volume is very close to the necessary size needed to have as flat response as possible from that sub, that being said you may want to mount the motor side of the sub on the outside of the enclosure for the best sound. I don't like prefab boxes, but if they are done right, they are just fine for a sealed setup. I would look into a nicer amplifier though, I just don't think that one is efficient enough for you, don't have any experience with it, but I'd go with something else. Maybe check out the MB Quart Onyx 1000D It will have a little overhead as far as power goes.

what would work better, the Dayton in the box I picked with the NX5 OR the NX5 amp with this from JL: JL Audio CS210-WX (CS210WXv2) 10" 10WX-4 in a Sealed BassWedge Box ? It looks like the dual 10's may not need as much power. Is there a 5 channel amp that would work better around the same price?

 

[i2ain2thunder 10+ year member]

what would work better, the Dayton in the box I picked with the NX5 OR the NX5 amp with this from JL: JL Audio CS210-WX (CS210WXv2) 10" 10WX-4 in a Sealed BassWedge Box ? It looks like the dual 10's may not need as much power. Is there a 5 channel amp that would work better around the same price?

Honestly if you were going to go with 2 10s on the same power they would be louder. If you are going with 2 10inch subs, I'd steer you toward the infinities. You would have to find an enclosure though. One thing to think about is that the performance of your subwoofers is going to depend heavily on the enclosure. If you can I would see about a custom enclosure either built yourself or by someone experienced. You will be more pleased with your subwoofers regardless of brand.

 

[copene]

What I'm finding confusing is the power. I spoke to a guy and he said that if I hooked up the NX5 to the JL sealed 10's the remaining power would blow the 4 car speakers instantly. I'm lost...

*I'm killing this dude's thread, I'm going to start a new one.

 

[i2ain2thunder 10+ year member]

Well that guy is assuming that you are going to be hooking your car's speakers up to that amplifier. If you are doing that you will want to look into a few things. First car speakers that are stock can't usually handle much more than 20watts rms. Aftermarkets typically take anywhere between 50-300watts rms. So if you are going to use that amp to power your car's speakers as well you will need to wire them in a way that they get appropriate power at the ohm load they are wired for. There are also gains and LPF HPF to consider on the amp's settings. Setting gains will determine how much power the speakers see, so you can set the amp to output the correct amount of power. Also setting HPF will help protect your car's speakers. Regular speakers are not meant to reproduce low frequency music like subwoofers. Setting a HPF will only allow frequencies above the setting to go to your speakers, thus ensuring they are not getting the lowest bass frequencies. If setup properly that amplifier will not blow your speakers, as the settings on the amplifier determine how much power they receive and what frequencies they receive. If done properly everything will be safe.

 

[copene]

Well that guy is assuming that you are going to be hooking your car's speakers up to that amplifier. If you are doing that you will want to look into a few things. First car speakers that are stock can't usually handle much more than 20watts rms. Aftermarkets typically take anywhere between 50-300watts rms. So if you are going to use that amp to power your car's speakers as well you will need to wire them in a way that they get appropriate power at the ohm load they are wired for. There are also gains and LPF HPF to consider on the amp's settings. Setting gains will determine how much power the speakers see, so you can set the amp to output the correct amount of power. Also setting HPF will help protect your car's speakers. Regular speakers are not meant to reproduce low frequency music like subwoofers. Setting a HPF will only allow frequencies above the setting to go to your speakers, thus ensuring they are not getting the lowest bass frequencies. If setup properly that amplifier will not blow your speakers, as the settings on the amplifier determine how much power they receive and what frequencies they receive. If done properly everything will be safe.

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[trumpet 5,000+ posts]

I have been pm'ing copene about a full setup with new speakers. The NX5 will not be run on stock speakers, but even on stock speakers it will probably work just fine with the gains turned down. Adding an amp to factory speakers can give very good results when properly set up.