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Oh.. hmm I just bought the 5201. I didnt realize it would show the screen from the phone. Well crud. Oh well. If we don't have the phone attached, it will still at least have GPS. I have a Droid, but the rest of my family has iPhones. Husband keeps telling me to switch over to apple. I just might now. Ny biggest requirement is using the phone button on the steering wheel to make calls.
 
Oh.. hmm I just bought the 5201. I didnt realize it would show the screen from the phone. Well crud. Oh well. If we don't have the phone attached, it will still at least have GPS. I have a Droid, but the rest of my family has iPhones. Husband keeps telling me to switch over to apple. I just might now. Ny biggest requirement is using the phone button on the steering wheel to make calls.
You'll be happy with the 5201. And you're right...a backup plan for GPS is not a bad thing. You did pay a little more, but not that much more.

Resist the temptation to become a follower. Android represents freedom of choice! I'm the only one in my family that doesn't use iPhone. And this from a guy that runs Mac Book Pro and iPads. Very familiar with the iOS ecosystem.
 
So, I just started the install today. I guess I figured it would be more of a plug it right in thing. I did solder all of the speaker connections, but wanted to wait foe rhe other stuff because I've never used a steering wheel control before. Whats the process for connecting that? I thought it would just plug in. But thats not the case. I guess i need the diagram for my car?
 
So, I just started the install today. I guess I figured it would be more of a plug it right in thing. I did solder all of the speaker connections, but wanted to wait foe rhe other stuff because I've never used a steering wheel control before. Whats the process for connecting that? I thought it would just plug in. But thats not the case. I guess i need the diagram for my car?
The steering wheel adapter plugs directly into a car connector and will be integrated with the harness that goes into the radio for things like door chimes and push to talk functionality. You shouldn't need the wiring diagram for the car using adapters, but you'll need to carefully match the wires between the adapter and the harness that you've been soldering on. At no point should you modify the car's original harness or wiring, always use adapters and do soldering on them. This should be made pretty easy using the instructions of the radio and the adapter in tandem.

Something that you mentioned earlier in this thread is backup camera compatible. Did the car come with a backup camera? Oftentimes this is the integration that's the hardest to achieve with aftermarket conversion kits. Factory cameras tend to be quite high resolution and not all head units support that so you'll end up with black bars on each side of the video feed. On my 2014 accord for example there's no head unit and harness adapter that will allow my backup camera to function as well as it does stock so I've yet to upgrade that part of my system.
 
Thanks for the response. This car did not come with a backup camera. I will probably do that later on. I did look up how to do the steering wheel controls. You have to tap into a couple of pins. Im not a fan of using tapping connectors. Id rather cut and solder. Unless there are some good connectors for this that I have not yet found
 
Thanks for the response. This car did not come with a backup camera. I will probably do that later on. I did look up how to do the steering wheel controls. You have to tap into a couple of pins. Im not a fan of using tapping connectors. Id rather cut and solder. Unless there are some good connectors for this that I have not yet found
If the kit that you bought doesn't account for the steering wheel controls without modifying the car's wiring then I'd recommend buying another piece that allows that conversion without modification. Not all kits are complete, which is why new cars are such a pain in the butt sometimes. I agree tapping is generally bad unless there's no other way and piercing tap connectors are especially crap. I use plug-in harnesses, solder, and heatshrink when possible.
 
If the kit that you bought doesn't account for the steering wheel controls without modifying the car's wiring then I'd recommend buying another piece that allows that conversion without modification. Not all kits are complete, which is why new cars are such a pain in the butt sometimes. I agree tapping is generally bad unless there's no other way and piercing tap connectors are especially crap. I use plug-in harnesses, solder, and heatshrink when possible.
According to things I've read online, the kit I got is pretty good. I think there are 3 connections. I will have to look. Its the axxess-asw-1. I think that's the model, its off the top of my head.
I've been using these cool little connectors with solder built in. You just use a heat gun.
 
According to things I've read online, the kit I got is pretty good. I think there are 3 connections. I will have to look. Its the axxess-asw-1. I think that's the model, its off the top of my head.
I've been using these cool little connectors with solder built in. You just use a heat gun.
Yeah, I did some reading on it and it's pretty comprehensive. It seems like you might be able to get away with doing all of your soldering on the radio side of the harness. There's a video on youtube showing a guy that didn't do that, but if there's continuity through the harness there's no reason to tap the car's side of that. The only situation where you might have to modify the car itself is if there's a blank spot on the radio harness's connector so it's not passing the wire you need. In that case I would modify the radio's harness to include the pin in question and connect the adapter's wire to the new pin instead.


They're just standard connectors like this forced into the back of the harness after being crimped. This is the preferable way in my opinion if you can achieve continuity through to the wire they want you to tap.
 
My plan is to connect to the radio side. I firgot yo buy the Bluetooth adapter. So I'm putting this on hold for a bit.

I think you should be able to no problem, I even doubt you'll have to add a pin to the connector. I'm pretty sure the reason why they talk about integrating with the car's wiring is only because the colors between different brands of radio are all different whereas their guides are specific to your vehicle and the goal is to make sure if you follow the instructions it'll be a working product. They don't necessarily expect a normal end-user to add pins to a connector that doesn't have one they need.
 
So, one would have thouggt it would be straightforward. However, i think the adapter i have is going to need to be pinned. There are supposed to be 3 wires coming from the cars plug. #6 is positive A. #16 is positive B. #15 is the ground. The only wire that is present on ny adapter is #16. To be fair.. i havent been able to see what the actual plug is from the car. I just looked at adapter.
 
So, one would have thouggt it would be straightforward. However, i think the adapter i have is going to need to be pinned. There are supposed to be 3 wires coming from the cars plug. #6 is positive A. #16 is positive B. #15 is the ground. The only wire that is present on ny adapter is #16. To be fair.. i havent been able to see what the actual plug is from the car. I just looked at adapter.
Luckily the plug pins are standardized and you should be able to make all of the pieces indoors instead of filling up the car with solder smoke. Since you'll be on the adapter side I'd recommend just using heatshrinkable marine crimps for #16, going direct to a terminal connector on the frame for #15 ground, and adding a pin on the harness for #6 that goes to a soldered and heatshrunk connection with the conversion unit. That's if the car connector looks like the instructions say it should at least. It seems like you know what you're doing, I think you'll be just fine. The hardest part for me is always maintaining patience after devoting a lot of time to getting it right with the details then missing something fundamentally obvious.
 
I'm still struggling to understand how this is supposed to work. I havent looked at the harness from the car. Im not understanding how the steering wheel controls will work with nothing going to the head unit. Im assuming there will be the 2 pos and ground coming from the cars harness. Only one wire comes out of that harness via my adapter. There is nothing going to the head unit.

Im alsobwonderingbabout the b/t connector. Should that just plug into the cars harness or should there be a plug on the head unit? I havent seen anything.
 
There is a lot of communications going through the car's CAN bus. It's kind of like a computer network's ethernet hub in that it controls all the comms on the low level stuff...stereo, hands free controls...climate controls...etc... The factory head unit wires are bundled into a loom. You should have part of your new harness that plugs into that loom. Between that harness and the CAN bus (usually just a two wire connection) you'll be interfacing with all those controls through the car's computer. Forget all that old school thought process of finding the speaker wires and tapping in. Here's an explanation https://canbuskits.com/what.php
 
I'm still struggling to understand how this is supposed to work. I havent looked at the harness from the car. Im not understanding how the steering wheel controls will work with nothing going to the head unit. Im assuming there will be the 2 pos and ground coming from the cars harness. Only one wire comes out of that harness via my adapter. There is nothing going to the head unit.

Im alsobwonderingbabout the b/t connector. Should that just plug into the cars harness or should there be a plug on the head unit? I havent seen anything.
As Sierra Nate said, the controls are digital. Most interfaces are boxes that translate the pulses sent from the steering wheel control or SWC which you'll probably see a lot in the manual. The harness from the car will be very populated, I doubt you'll have a single requested pin that doesn't have a corresponding car harness wire. At that point you'll just need to figure out if your stereo harness has the wire needed. During the interface not all wires are carried into the new unit and that's where your potential for lost features is. The adapter that you bought is from a reputable company that's very familiar with car stereo wiring, I suspect that it'll be plug and play minus maybe just those 3 wires you were talking about earlier and they'll be covered in the instructions as to what to do with them.

When you say only one wire comes out of the harness there's going to be multiple harnesses which do different things, the instructions should be pretty good on the new harnesses but understand some harnesses have copies of wires you won't need. Like for example the ANC module has a Bat+, ground, and control. If you're bypassing the ANC then it'll probably be a very simple harness. If you need more help though feel free to take a photo of each of the harnesses and I'll try and piece together why if it doesn't work as intended per the instructions if it indeed doesn't work on the first attempt.
 
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