Whats wrong with turning the gain up all the way

[Ali1 10+ year member]

Did you not understand my post?
Please don't tell me you're honestly falling for the crap these guys are spewing...

"pre-out voltage"?

"clipping"?

"amplifier"?

What kinda bs made up terms are those?

They can't even get their story right so they're arguing back and forth...please don't become yet another victim of ca.com's trolling crowd, it may be fun to take advantage of noobs, but it's not right imo and sometimes it just goes too far. Look what happened to King Ranch...poor guy

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[Rashaddd 5,000+ posts]

this post is full of zero useful info //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gifare you rashaddd the websters car audio dictionary and thesaurus queen? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/redface.gif.62fdbfe1a101588a808c4cff71bcb942.gif

What is that a tripple inverted behind-the-back negative?

Don't try and discredit me, OP isn't stupid enough to fall for your ploys

 

[CRXBMPN 5,000+ posts]

nah it was a double kick flip triple sulkow tailwhip //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

im not discrediting you, i'm just waiting for you to prove where your info trumps ours, or mine, or whatever. what's worked for me is real world results, not car audio posts.

should I sign the post at the end with "take everything everyone says with a grain of salt"?

 

[steveBeatz]

LMAO this thread has gone way off track, I love it! lol

 

[Rashaddd 5,000+ posts]

nah it was a double kick flip triple sulkow tailwhip //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gifim not discrediting you, i'm just waiting for you to prove where your info trumps ours, or mine, or whatever. what's worked for me is real world results, not car audio posts.

should I sign the post at the end with "take everything everyone says with a grain of salt"?

OP, don't listen to this noob, he may think he is smarter than me because of his sign-up date, but if you look closely, you'll discover my post count exceeds his and trumps his sign-up date advantage. Clearly he has learned nothing in the 4-5 years he has been on this site...

 

[Forrest Gump 10+ year member]

Thats a horrable idea, you cant hear all distortion.

You are a horrible speller

 

[edzy 10+ year member]

whats a gain? like another volume knob?

 

[CRXBMPN 5,000+ posts]

i never noticed your sign on date, or your post count, or your ref's or anything. anyways, you havent proven anything i've said to be wrong or silly or even half incorrect.

i'm sure you're a smart cookie, so enjoy yourself in all your glory!

 

[Mass Car Audio 10+ year member]

You are a horrible speller

oh well...//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[Rashaddd 5,000+ posts]

i never noticed your sign on date, or your post count, or your ref's or anything. anyways, you havent proven anything i've said to be wrong or silly or even half incorrect. i'm sure you're a smart cookie, so enjoy yourself in all your glory!

The mere fact that it was typed by your troll-infested hands proves it is wrong, silly, AND half incorrect

Teh funnah escaepz joo

 

[CRXBMPN 5,000+ posts]

well rah rah make a useful post then, instead of trying to knock others //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

i'm far from a troll btw //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

eventually things will go Biiiizzzzzaaaakkkk! speakers may start to smell and the amp may begin to look more like a small model smoke house LOL

 

[Forrest Gump 10+ year member]

oh well...//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

But seriously...That is a pretty good way to set ur gains...

It would be very hard to perfectly set gains because different songs have different bass.....

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

What most people dont realize is, an amplifier is ALWAYS working at 100%. Yep, its true. Know why it doesn't always output the same amount of power though? Because its input source varies how large of a signal it has to amplify. The larger the input signal is (in volts), the larger the output from the amplifier. The amp's output stage is always 'pushing' with the same 'force', it simply has more, or less, to start with. This is exactly why amplifiers are sometimes called "gain blocks" and how you control the amplifier's output from the driver's seat, with the headunit's volume controls. Wrap your brains around that one kids.

So, knowing this, explaining gains correctly becomes easier. The gain knob simply adjusts the input sensitivity of the amplifier. The output stage always pushes with the same force, but how much signal voltage it has to start with is determined not just by the source unit's output voltage (your head unit), but by how sensitive you adjust the input stage of the amplifier to be. Will your h/u max at 1 volt of output signal, or 8 volts? The gain knob tells the amplifier this.

What happens when you adjust the input stage of your amp to be too sensitive given the input signal it can receive? Clipping. As shown in a pic above, its a squaring off the of the signal waveform. What was said about it was true, the problem does lie in the fact that more power exists under the shape of a squared wave. This is because amplitude does not increase, while area under the waveform does. More power, but no more cone excursion to help dissipate the excess heat that will be generated. So no, clipping will not help exceed your speaker's mechanical limits, but it certainly can help exceed its thermal limits.

To argue if 'clipping' or 'excess power killed a speaker is semantics. The excess heat was caused by the clipping. So long as its understood that 'clipping' in and of itself does not kill speakers, only when it helps drive the speaker past its thermal limits, then saying clipping killed the speaker is acceptable. But, we do love to revel in these arguments here, dont we.

 

[Jakeeck 10+ year member]

But seriously...That is a pretty good way to set ur gains...
It would be very hard to perfectly set gains because different songs have different bass.....

i did what you said and i got it sounding just how i want now.. and btw when i said i thought my sub was bottoming out it really wasnt.. it was just a really really weird bass ive never heard in a song before that kinda sounded like it