What a considerate Judicial System

[budahbuddy803 10+ year member]

Ill try to keep it short. Room mate orders pizza a few Sunday's back. He says they keep putting him on hold so he wasn't getting pizza anymore. Night goes on with about 8 people over just playing rummy, drinking a few brews, and watching 8 mile. Get a knock on the door and the roomy tells em to come in. We figure it is just a neighbor coming to hang. Well turns out it is a police officer. He comes in telling the roomy to not let everyone in if there are bongs, pot, and beers out when no one is 21 years old. He asks about the stolen credit card used to try to order pizza. Roomy explains that it's his parents and he must of read off the number wrong because the name on the card that was reported was different than his mother's name. The cop takes the few tenths of a gram of pot and the bong. He writes us citations for the pot (simple possession), but not for the beer and does not take us to jail.

My options with this citation:

PTI: $100 application, $50 drug program, $255 acceptance fee, $30 drug screen(s), $285 expungement fee + any other stupid programs, counseling, and mad community service they want to make me take. Total = $720 + gas and any other additions that I don't know about.

Fine : Max drug fine $580. Lose license for 6 months

Conditional Discharge: Random drug screens @ $30 a piece, $285 expungement fee.

The judge in Clemson will not allow conditional discharge. He gives max drug penalties. I have spoken with the lieutenant and he is very helpful and nice. Takes the time to call me after reading emails to further discuss my questions. I just hate how someone came into my place when we were not disturbing anyone, found the tiny amount of pot, and now I have to pay lots of money and spend the next year in this stupid program, or I can pay lots of money, not be able to drive, and not be able to intern where I want to over the summer.

I have been fucked over because I was watching a movie and playing cards with some friends is how I feel. Yes, the drug is illegal and the roomy should have checked further into the pizza situation and not allowed the cop in, but I mean come on.

They don't want to better the community with community service and things like that. They don't want to punish me. They want to rob me and not allow me to make back that money by not allowing me to drive nor get a good job. I really do not understand why it works this way.

I do appreciate the option of PTI, but if conditional discharge is out there, cheaper, and not as big of a hassle as PTI, why will the judge not allow me into the program? Not only is the license things a big deal in general, but my brother just passed away the weekend before this charge and if I get my license suspended, I have no way of going to visit her when she needs her only son. The penalties for possessing such a tiny amount of a drug less harmful than alcohol are nothing but inconsiderate and mean. **** You Judge.

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[chunky cumz 10+ year member]

bahahahahahahahahahahaha

 

[Johnny Law.Lulz 5,000+ posts]

Do you think your mom would appreciate you smoking the herb ?

While you are using the "im not hurting anyone defense and all that" and that "cops should be out stopping real crimes", you are trying to justify your illegal actions by comparing it to murder and so on, If its illegal, cops will try to stop it. Obviously, because they were there for a stolen credit card possbibility. Instead of trying to throw the blame, why dont you stop your illegal and harmful habit and not worry about ish like this later on. They are making it expensive and ish on you so they can hopefully make you realize its not worth the risk.

 

[chunky cumz 10+ year member]

ya what i said ^

 

[budahbuddy803 10+ year member]

Do you think your mom would appreciate you smoking the herb ?
While you are using the "im not hurting anyone defense and all that" and that "cops should be out stopping real crimes", you are trying to justify your illegal actions by comparing it to murder and so on, If its illegal, cops will try to stop it. Obviously, because they were there for a stolen credit card possbibility. Instead of trying to throw the blame, why dont you stop your illegal and harmful habit and not worry about ish like this later on. They are making it expensive and ish on you so they can hopefully make you realize its not worth the risk.

I dont smoke. It was the room mates.

EDIT: When I did smoke, my mom did not appreciate it.

Double Edit: Even if it were mine and I did smoke, you think a license suspension for six months is reasonable? Along with the fine and a criminal record??? For a first time offender???

 

[snoopdan 5,000+ posts]

cool story pothead.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

I can understand you feel violated, but you answered your own question. A credit card number was given out that was reported stolen. You feel violated the cops checked it out. How would you feel if it was YOUR CC that was stolen, the thief was trying to use it to order pizza, and the cops DIDNT investigate? Violated maybe?

Im really not following what your complaint is based on.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

cool story pothead.

I smelled alcohol on your breath when you said that.

 

[chunky cumz 10+ year member]

theres more to the story that he isnt telling but since hes a pothead hes so paranoid he wont tell us.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

theres more to the story that he isnt telling but since hes a pothead hes so paranoid he wont tell us.

It does seem a bit of a coincidence the accident lead to giving out a stolen cc's number. What are the odds of that happening to you? That you screw up your CC number by one digit, and turns out that CC was recently stolen? God forbid the cops show up to ask about it! What is this, Russia?

 

[stangman67 10+ year member]

Either way, you should not feel violated. Whether you were smoking or not. You were at a place where illegal drugs were being used, The cop did not know who was smoking and who was not. You made a bad decision, and when you make that decision be sure you are prepared to accept the consequences.

 

[chunky cumz 10+ year member]

i expect more from an 06er... and he still has yet to respond.... tranforming into the gheyness

 

[budahbuddy803 10+ year member]

I can understand you feel violated, but you answered your own question. A credit card number was given out that was reported stolen. You feel violated the cops checked it out. How would you feel if it was YOUR CC that was stolen, the thief was trying to use it to order pizza, and the cops DIDNT investigate? Violated maybe?
Im really not following what your complaint is based on.

My complaint is that rather than giving community service, maybe a few drug tests if they really want, and small things that help the community for my drug charge, why do they make the people pay a good amount of money as well as suspend the license for 6 months, and give a criminal record which keeps me from getting a job that I am lined up for. Its like stealing money and then keeping me from being productive. I need a license to get to and from community services, I need a license to visit my mother, I need a license to work... All these things that keep society moving they have disabled me from because I had a small amount of a drug.

As far as the stolen credit card goes, I guess its good that they investigate and everything, but if a credit card has been reported stolen, most of the time, it is canceled and through the company you can get your money back, you get a new card, and nothing bad happens.... If i had a canceled credit card and a police officer called and said hey we found the guy that was using your card.... How does that help me? Ok, good, now **** his life up. **** he would probably get lesser penalties than I with possession of pot that wasnt mine. I just dont get satisfaction from knowing who stole my credit card. It is credit, it can be replaced if you are smart and monitor your funds so you can prove that a card was stolen. I do no rely on police to handle my problems for the most part. Police tend to only want to help themselves.

theres more to the story that he isnt telling but since hes a pothead hes so paranoid he wont tell us.

I pretty much said everything. The cop was nice. We had alcohol and were not 21, he did not give us a ticket for that, nor did he take us to jail which he said was a possibility. The cop also said since we were so cooperative that he would sign off of any program that would help better our lives.... True story: less than a gram of pot, a bong, and some beers. We were playing rummy with about 8 people watching 8 mile... thats it. I dont smoke, im not paranoid, just frustrated with the penalties for my crime.

BTW johnny will you reply to my quote and questions?

 

[budahbuddy803 10+ year member]

It does seem a bit of a coincidence the accident lead to giving out a stolen cc's number. What are the odds of that happening to you? That you screw up your CC number by one digit, and turns out that CC was recently stolen? God forbid the cops show up to ask about it! What is this, Russia?

Well that happened because his parents credit card was reported stolen about a year ago. They changed the last 4 digits and the security code on the back. My room mate used the one that was reported stolen on accident. He has them memorized and recited the old stolen numbers.

 

[snoopdan 5,000+ posts]

I smelled alcohol on your breath when you said that.

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