Tips for setting EQ for metal/Rock

[awdtalon21]

Can anyone throw out some tip for setting a EQ for metal, rock music. I have the 80prs so I have 16 band EQ, everything else sounds good but metal.

Thanks

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[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

Did you run the auto EQ? Mine played everything.

 

[big scott]

ya try the auto eq and see how it sounds. from there you can tweak it.

 

[awdtalon21]

I have tried it, did not really care for the way it sounded. I will have to try it again since I fully dynamatted the doors.

 

[trumpet 5,000+ posts]

Metal is very demanding on the range of sound from the roughly the mid 30s up past 10 kHz. What specifically does not sound good?

 

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

Are you losing out on midbass? Not loud enough without distorting? Too much treble or everything just sounds like noise thats put in a blender?

 

[awdtalon21]

Lots of treble, little midbass, and yes it kinda of does sound like noise in a blender, can barley even listen to it. I'm probably EQing wrong, I thought you where supposed to try to lower than raise the EQ setting, should I be raising the low and the high, and then cutting the mids, not as much as I was before?

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

Mid range is the bass line. You really need a RTA to dial it in.

 

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

Lots of treble, little midbass, and yes it kinda of does sound like noise in a blender, can barley even listen to it. I'm probably EQing wrong, I thought you where supposed to try to lower than raise the EQ setting, should I be raising the low and the high, and then cutting the mids, not as much as I was before?

Before anything, make sure all your speakers and tweeters are in proper phase, check with a 9 volt battery. If you have an amp, make sure its wired properly, is it bridged?

For treble, tweeter placement makes a big difference along with proper gain adjustments. If its a passive component set then put the tweeter on -3 or -6

Midbass will need proper seals and deadened doors.

The auto EQ can only take you so far, the test depends on a quality install.

Another thing with the auto EQ, put the mic on your headrest and take off the head rest cushion and make sure no noise is happening around it when its calibrating.

 

[VWBobby 10+ year member]

Yes, you want to cut rather than increase past 0db on your EQ settings.

Bass and large drums are ~20hz - 2Khz.

Guitar and vocals are generally 1.5Khz on up.

Cymbals, snare and high hat is about 5Khz on up.

Try cutting the 5Khz band a little and leave everything else around 0db. You may need to "add" db on some levels, but try to avoid more than absolutely necessary.

 

[awdtalon21]

Before anything, make sure all your speakers and tweeters are in proper phase, check with a 9 volt battery. If you have an amp, make sure its wired properly, is it bridged?
For treble, tweeter placement makes a big difference along with proper gain adjustments. If its a passive component set then put the tweeter on -3 or -6

Midbass will need proper seals and deadened doors.

The auto EQ can only take you so far, the test depends on a quality install.

Another thing with the auto EQ, put the mic on your headrest and take off the head rest cushion and make sure no noise is happening around it when its calibrating.

Speaker are all in phase, checked twice.

Four channel amp for the front and rear door speakers. Passive for right now.

Front doors have been sealed and deadened.

I have Hertz ESK165 right now, I might just go get the HSK165XL, If there that much better.

Yes, you want to cut rather than increase past 0db on your EQ settings.
Bass and large drums are ~20hz - 2Khz.

Guitar and vocals are generally 1.5Khz on up.

Cymbals, snare and high hat is about 5Khz on up.

Try cutting the 5Khz band a little and leave everything else around 0db. You may need to "add" db on some levels, but try to avoid more than absolutely necessary.

Thanks I have tried messing with those settings, I can get it to be "ok" on some songs, but not how I want it to be.

 

[blazian87 10+ year member]

Speaker are all in phase, checked twice. Four channel amp for the front and rear door speakers. Passive for right now.

Front doors have been sealed and deadened.

I have Hertz ESK165 right now, I might just go get the HSK165XL, If there that much better.

Thanks I have tried messing with those settings, I can get it to be "ok" on some songs, but not how I want it to be.

http://www.caraudio.com/forums/general-discussion/612530-hertz-esk-165l-5-vs-hsk-165-a.html

According to this thread, it seems like the HSK165XL will be a big step up.

 

[awdtalon21]

Yup, I did read that.