so i fired someone today......

I agree with everything you said, including the fact that they were once necessary. However, they just push shit way too far.
How has the UAW pushed things to far? I guess fighting GM to keep the jobs of the people they represent is too far. Apparently the UAW is causing the sales of the automakers to decline.

 
How has the UAW pushed things to far? I guess fighting GM to keep the jobs of the people they represent is too far. Apparently the UAW is causing the sales of the automakers to decline.
They forced higher pensions than the company can afford. GM is barely staying afloat buying people out early. You can only take so much blood for the worker before it hurts the company as a whole. The best maneuver was putting health care into the hands of the union and off the companies shoulder. Now the employees can watch their beloved union mismanage and **** them with it. UAW put food on my whole families table, but I am still not blinded by the fact that they have taken too much in the name of the worker.

No they are obviously not responsible for bad sales. That's just GM being out of touch with what people want obviously, but they were just maintaining when they were selling by buying out people so they would retire earlier and they didn't have to pay so much on the long term pensions.

 
They forced higher pensions than the company can afford. GM is barely staying afloat buying people out early. You can only take so much blood for the worker before it hurts the company as a whole. The best maneuver was putting health care into the hands of the union and off the companies shoulder. Now the employees can watch their beloved union mismanage and **** them with it. UAW put food on my whole families table, but I am still not blinded by the fact that they have taken too much in the name of the worker.
No they are obviously not responsible for bad sales. That's just GM being out of touch with what people want obviously, but they were just maintaining when they were selling by buying out people so they would retire earlier and they didn't have to pay so much on the long term pensions.
The union has conceded big time on retiree pensions. Ford's has made big cutbacks on retirees health care. This was a non issue till the overseas companies infiltrated the US and gave the big 3 competition. The union isn't the reason the big 3 is going down. Why don't salary employees cut back their pensions and pay?

 
I've fired a guy for doing weed and coke at work....and bringing a hooker to work to bang in a conference room. Oh, he smoked cigs in the men's bathroom when it was too cold outside as well....haha. Bad part is, after I let the dood go, he asked if I'd give him a good reference //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif

Fired another for saying he was going to come into work with a shotgun and shoot everybody....that one was a little tense for a while //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eek.gif.771b7a90cf45cabdc554ff1121c21c4a.gif

 
I've fired a guy for doing weed and coke at work....and bringing a hooker to work to bang in a conference room. Oh, he smoked cigs in the men's bathroom when it was too cold outside as well....haha. Bad part is, after I let the dood go, he asked if I'd give him a good reference //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif
Fired another for saying he was going to come into work with a shotgun and shoot everybody....that one was a little tense for a while //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eek.gif.771b7a90cf45cabdc554ff1121c21c4a.gif
Wow. What do you do for a living?

 
The union has conceded big time on retiree pensions. Ford's has made big cutbacks on retirees health care. This was a non issue till the overseas companies infiltrated the US and gave the big 3 competition. The union isn't the reason the big 3 is going down. Why don't salary employees cut back their pensions and pay?
I am not going to continue to argue why I find unions unnecessary with you. I reserve those for pissing off my dad.

 
Salary employees are a drop in the bucket when it comes to the sheer numbers of non-salaried. I do however agree with where you are going with it. The union has just finally started conceding when the outcomes were obvious. They should have stopped raping a while back. They were striking when things weren't bad for the employee. Makes no sense.
I am not going to continue to argue why I find unions unnecessary with you. I reserve those for pissing off my dad.
The last strike with GM was because GM wanted to cut X amount of jobs. If the union isn't going to fight at least for your job, then they are worthless.

Where I work salary employees out number union 10 to 1.

 
Wow. What do you do for a living?
I worked nights for a company, and while working nights brings certain allowable liberties....doing weed, coke, banging hookers on the clock, and threatening to shoot coworkers in the face with a shotgun were not allowed //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 
I worked nights for a company, and while working nights brings certain allowable liberties....doing weed, coke, banging hookers on the clock, and threatening to shoot coworkers in the face with a shotgun were not allowed //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif
Good times
 
Them union boys are gonna work you over with a lead pipe //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/sneaky.gif.7189749b3a3f769e8815b47e8ae87f88.gif
they tried to say it was a tobacco pipe after he admitted having it to everyone.it was my word against his blah blah i was just trying to get him fired blah blah and there was no evidence but denied all pot or smoking. we requested a urine test and he refused and got himself fired lol

 
As manager of a facility it is my job to know what my employees do on the clock. If they hurt someone because their attention span was altered by their on site drug use, I am liable. How you can't understand that is beyond me.
I give second chances on a lot of things, except drug or alcohol use on premise during work. It is absurd and proven many times that it isn't worth the second chance. The second time could be him injuring himself or another while high.

THAT COULD MEAN MY JOB NOT JUST HIS.

Are you that thick?
x2 times 10

 
thats kinda mean.
tell him to get his *** in gear. if he does and works fine who cares if he smokes?
Its a new job. You shouldn't have to tell a new employee to get their *** in gear. Automatic. This kind of "give him a chance" ethic you speak of is weaksauce. The guy had his chance when he got hired.

 
Its a new job. You shouldn't have to tell a new employee to get their *** in gear. Automatic. This kind of "give him a chance" ethic you speak of is weaksauce. The guy had his chance when he got hired.
he wasnt really motivated either surprising. the job is really cake. requires a round of the grounds every hour, which he was late doing cause he was zoned out watching a movie. there is a check list of maybe 35 things. i also have printed sheets of the standards for ph and temp ranges and easy ways to adjust of the normal problems or things to spot. a **** monkey could do the job. and if there is a problem that requires more than 2brain cells they call me and or maintenance. they just have to spot the problem. maybe takes if your slow 10min an hour. the rest of the time is keeping yourself out of trouble and he failed.

 
this is technically my first week as supervisor. ive been lead man and doing the same thing for almost 2months now but official as of this week. anyways we're short 4guys so that leaves me on first a grunt doing all of 3rd shift this week. well i got a guy to come in and ive been training him. hes already been late twice this week but i covered for him being the nice guy. so today its like 1pm im outside smoking a cig and see a box i didnt throw away. so i go to throw it away behind the building and theres the new guy standing in the back doorway. he turns around with a bag and pipe in hand. lol long story short he admitted he had weed but said he wasnt smoking. even though after i seen him i walked back out front and kinda eyed him from the corner and watched him continue to smoke for 5min. once he came back around i told him he was working hard at getting fired. and proceded go through the channels and get the paper work to fire him. the end
managing mcDonalds aint easy bro.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wow.gif.23d729408e9177caa2a0ed6a2ba6588e.gif

 
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