Opinions on Ferguson?

[tprj82 10+ year member]

Black and white people live in a different world wether you want to admit it or not. I see nothing wrong with me acknowledging this and wanting it to change. At this point in my life I know I'm a awesome caring person. All I want is the best for everyone involved. All I want is a fair world. A world were person A recieve same benefits as person B regardless of race, etc. Because that's not how the world is now. 95% of black people you meet will say they have it worse than whites. Yet prlly 95% of whites say they don't have it easier. I will believe what you cannot deny to my eyes. I will believe researchers and college professors. You must hate working at a college. **** near every sociology class now teaches students about inequality. Wether it's racial, ******, based on religion. Alot of the white people on this forum would not want their kids to go to college in a mixed, liberal neighborhood. They might come out wanting equality like I do. Which is apparently a horrible thing

You are 100% right when I'm in the political science building repairing the hvac or fire alarm and I can hear the teacher telling the students they are still practically enslaved by white man, and other forms of hatred. It used to bother me but then one day I realized something, I'm fixing the a/c, another white guy is down the hall way fixing the toilets, and here is the white guys doing the manual labor fixing the crap and there is the classrooms full of black students with a majority of them on some form of scholarship or financial aid that I dont qualify for. I'm not upset I enjoy what I do and get paid fairly for it as well. its just funny to hear you and these teachers preach that knowing that your facts are greatly distorted.

 

[negolien]

you are 100% right when i'm in the political science building repairing the hvac or fire alarm and i can hear the teacher telling the students they are still practically enslaved by white man, and other forms of hatred. It used to bother me but then one day i realized something, i'm fixing the a/c, another white guy is down the hall way fixing the toilets, and here is the white guys doing the manual labor fixing the crap and there is the classrooms full of black students with a majority of them on some form of scholarship or financial aid that i dont qualify for. I'm not upset i enjoy what i do and get paid fairly for it as well. Its just funny to hear you and these teachers preach that knowing that your facts are greatly distorted.

preach it brother!!!

 

[thatguy12 10+ year member]

You are 100% right when I'm in the political science building repairing the hvac or fire alarm and I can hear the teacher telling the students they are still practically enslaved by white man, and other forms of hatred. It used to bother me but then one day I realized something, I'm fixing the a/c, another white guy is down the hall way fixing the toilets, and here is the white guys doing the manual labor fixing the crap and there is the classrooms full of black students with a majority of them on some form of scholarship or financial aid that I dont qualify for. I'm not upset I enjoy what I do and get paid fairly for it as well. its just funny to hear you and these teachers preach that knowing that your facts are greatly distorted.

What makes you assume those people want your manual labor job lol (don't really answer, as what you've said was irrelevant and I don't see how it relates)? You said what youve heard. I dont know what if what your saying is true, and you dont know if those professors had sources on the board as they were "yelling". They could have had amazing sources, you weren't there? I've never had a professor yell hatred. Every single professor I have had (at least the three sociology professors, had one garbage math teacher) have backed up every single statement they have made with sources. I don't know what kind of college you listen to, but mine is a school that backs up what they say. You guys on this forum completely misunderstand what I am saying. I'm not justifying the horrible actions that take place in the ghetto. All I am doing is asking people to think about why things are the way they are. There is no gene in black people that makes them work less than the white man. YES, a black man can strive in life if they work their as* off. All I'm saying is black people generally have to work much harder than white people to recieve the same benefits, the same social status, and the same spot on the social heriarchy. No matter what you think, not everyone born in America has the same chance to succeed. Not everyone starts at the same line in the "race of life". I find this morally wrong. And like to speak on it. On averege blacks get paid less than a white man for the same job. Even if they have the exact same credentials (please google if you don't believe me). Many researchers have done studies where they send in job applications. Most often researchers would send resumes with the same credentials for a job, but one would be a white man with no criminal record, white man with criminal record, black person with no criminal record, and a black man with a criminal record. They did this for thousands of job openings in every state of our country. Guess what the results where almost 80% (it was 80 somthings, but don't remember exact percentage and don't want to say something I don't remember 100%)

the order usually followed as

1. White man with no record

2. White man WITH criminal record.

3. Black man without criminal record.

4. Black man with criminal record.

you don't think this is wrong? If you don't believe these studies exist please just Google it, please don't just call me a fool when there's endless proof at your fingertips. They have many experiments like this done by very good organizations, colleges, etc. Just google and look at different sources. Find one you trust and feel comfortable with.

Have you ever filed out a financial aid form? It's awesome that poor people and people with single family homes recieve more money. This actually fuc*ked me over hardcore, hardcore. My parents now make decent money, even though I am on my own, and my parents house is in foreclosure because their in hardcore debt. Because of this i got very little financial aid and had to go to school full time and work almost full time. Financial aid is mainly based on your parents income, taxes, and where you live. I am fine with getting screw*d over on a few things so those less fortunate have help.

Will you please go back through my posts and tell me what I said was false? In general I'm saying whites recieve lots of privilige that other races do not recieve. A quick look at your local library, government office, school, Internet search will prove this. I understand why most whites don't believe this though. You want yourself to believe you haven't gained anything frm your skin color. Everthing you have is because you worked hard. It's offensive when someone says that you haven't done that. You may have worked your as* off. But why deny that being white hasn't helped you when you see in general how well your race is doing compared to all others, when doing a quick Google search will bring up thousands of studies, papers, research proving this?

Sorry about Grammer mistakes, on my cell phone. Almost impossible not to mess up a couple of swipes.

 

[thatguy12 10+ year member]

its just funny to hear you and these teachers preach that knowing that your facts are greatly distorted.

So, do you believe that white people and black people start out at the exact same point in the "race of life"? Are treated the same? Get paid the same for the same work? You believe that the reason so many black people are struggling is because they su*k at life? Su*k at working hard? Just don't work as hard? Because when looking at who is striving in life, white people per capita are doing much much better.

 

[adulbrich 5,000+ posts]

What makes you assume those people want your manual labor job lol (don't really answer, as what you've said was irrelevant and I don't see how it relates)? You said what youve heard. I dont know what if what your saying is true, and you dont know if those professors had sources on the board as they were "yelling". They could have had amazing sources, you weren't there? I've never had a professor yell hatred. Every single professor I have had (at least the three sociology professors, had one garbage math teacher) have backed up every single statement they have made with sources. I don't know what kind of college you listen to, but mine is a school that backs up what they say. You guys on this forum completely misunderstand what I am saying. I'm not justifying the horrible actions that take place in the ghetto. All I am doing is asking people to think about why things are the way they are. There is no gene in black people that makes them work less than the white man. YES, a black man can strive in life if they work their as* off. All I'm saying is black people generally have to work much harder than white people to recieve the same benefits, the same social status, and the same spot on the social heriarchy. No matter what you think, not everyone born in America has the same chance to succeed. Not everyone starts at the same line in the "race of life". I find this morally wrong. And like to speak on it. On averege blacks get paid less than a white man for the same job. Even if they have the exact same credentials (please google if you don't believe me). Many researchers have done studies where they send in job applications. Most often researchers would send resumes with the same credentials for a job, but one would be a white man with no criminal record, white man with criminal record, black person with no criminal record, and a black man with a criminal record. They did this for thousands of job openings in every state of our country. Guess what the results where almost 80% (it was 80 somthings, but don't remember exact percentage and don't want to say something I don't remember 100%)the order usually followed as

1. White man with no record

2. White man WITH criminal record.

3. Black man without criminal record.

4. Black man with criminal record.

you don't think this is wrong? If you don't believe these studies exist please just Google it, please don't just call me a fool when there's endless proof at your fingertips. They have many experiments like this done by very good organizations, colleges, etc. Just google and look at different sources. Find one you trust and feel comfortable with.

Have you ever filed out a financial aid form? It's awesome that poor people and people with single family homes recieve more money. This actually fuc*ked me over hardcore, hardcore. My parents now made more money, even though I am on my own, and my parents house is in foreclosure because their in hardcore debt. Financial aid is mainly based on your parents income, taxes, and where you live. I am fine with getting screw*d over on a few things so those less fortunate have help.

Will you please go back through my posts and tell me what I said was false? In general I'm saying whites recieve lots of privilige that other races do not recieve. A quick look at your local library, government office, school, Internet search will prove this. I understand why most whites don't believe this though. You want yourself to believe you haven't gained anything frm your skin color. Everthing you have is because you worked hard. It's offensive when someone says that you haven't done that. You may have worked your as* off. But why deny that being white hasn't helped you when you see in general how well your race is doing compared to all others, when doing a quick Google search will bring up thousands of studies, papers, research proving this?

Sorry about Grammer mistakes, on my cell phone. Almost impossible not to mess up a couple of swipes.

False, take the hip hop industry for example. Becoming a successful white rapper is much harder imo..

 

[negolien]

Save it everyone knows colleges are full of liberal propaganda including support for terrorists. For you to sit there and say colleges are bastions of free thinking tolerance is moronic. For you to sit here in the 21st century and say minorities are downtrodden and like we here from other morons worse off then they were in the years before the 60's is a joke. I work with plenty of well educated minorities of many colors and creeds and they all have one thing in common. They accept responsibility for their own actions and their own success. They also teach that same personal responsibility to their kids and others who will listen. These are the same people you are calling genocidal with agendas to kill the black man to keep him down lol absurd. You can sit there and ***** all you want about the man keeping you're "people" down but it's just an excuse and a whining point to say ohh poor you. you're so special.

 

[thatguy12 10+ year member]

False, take the hip hop industry for example. Becoming a successful white rapper is much harder imo..

Lol. You are right about that. Nd maybe sports in the united states lol

 

[adulbrich 5,000+ posts]

Lol. You are right about that. Nd maybe sports in the united states lol

Yea, I wasn't even thinking about sports! There are a ton of successful NFL and NBA players

 

[thatguy12 10+ year member]

Save it everyone knows colleges are full of liberal propaganda including support for terrorists. For you to sit there and say colleges are bastions of free thinking tolerance is moronic. For you to sit here in the 21st century and say minorities are downtrodden and like we here from other morons worse off then they were in the years before the 60's is a joke. I work with plenty of well educated minorities of many colors and creeds and they all have one thing in common. They accept responsibility for their own actions and their own success. They also teach that same personal responsibility to their kids and others who will listen. These are the same people you are calling genocidal with agendas to kill the black man to keep him down lol absurd. You can sit there and ***** all you want about the man keeping you're "people" down but it's just an excuse and a whining point to say ohh poor you. you're so special.

NEVER once said black people are worse now than in slavery. Never said the white man is trying to kill black people. Only said the way our society is set up, from hospitals, to grocery stores, to schools, to jobs, to housing is set up in a way that caters to the white man. My school has never taught me terrorist propaganda? Education is an extremely important foundation to life. Without education our world wouldn't advance. You make it sound like college is useless, because it teaches hatred and terrorist propaganda. Why do you assume I am black? I am not, I am white. Self responsibility in an important skill to have, but that doesn't diminish the fact that on average black people have to work harder to recieve the same benefits.

I'm not special at all? I don't think you have really read anything I have said. I have read everything you said and thought it over. Why wouldn't you do the same? Don't say you did because your responses included almost nothing I've said lol. You said your people assuming I'm black when I've said many times I'm white, but I'm human so everyone is "my people". I at least respect your opinion. I have actually googled multiple things others have said in this thread to learn more.

 

[thatguy12 10+ year member]

Yea, I wasn't even thinking about sports! There are a ton of successful NFL and NBA players

I don't know if it's the same around the world though. Im curious though. I know soccer is the most popular sport, but I don't watch soccer. So have no clue or opinion. And those funny games like cricket. Wonder if that's mainly white dudes lol

 

[Beatin' 10+ year member]

lol at idiots who want life to be fair.

 

[thatguy12 10+ year member]

lol at idiots who want life to be fair.

? Life will never be completely fair, life's a dirty a$$ bi*ch that most likely never cleans herself. She beats you, robs you, and than laughs at you. Why should it be much more unfair for a certain group based on something they cannot control. There should be nothing wrong with me speaking against the unfair world also. Stuff won't change with an attitude like that.

 

[Jes 42 10+ year member]

? Life will never be completely fair, life's a dirty a$$ bi*ch that most likely never cleans herself. She beats you, robs you, and than laughs at you. Why should it be much more unfair for a certain group based on something they cannot control. There should be nothing wrong with me speaking against the unfair world also. Stuff won't change with an attitude like that.

You have ppl that always have to be right and know it all.You'll never change that bro.

 

[oldschoolboomer 10+ year member]

Who you think started the crack epidemic? Who introduced crack? Black people in the ghetto have no boats or airplanes. Poor black people wouldn't have the chemical knowledge to make crack. I know many crack heads and coke heads and they both addicts. They both willing to steal to feed they habit. It's racist in itself that you think it's justified to give people who use crack harsher punishment than people who use powder. Because it is mainly blacks who get caught with crack. When the addiction cause both blacks and whites to commit the same crimes for money, act the same, etc.

I'm glad to see you've cleaned up your grammar a bit since this post.

 

[Joseph7195 10+ year member]

I'm surprised someone hasn't bumped this back up again.