Okay enough is enough

[Slo_Ride 5,000+ posts]

Its like this... lets say you own a car audio shop and someone brings you a car to work on. A previous shop put in a system and did a perfectly fine job, but then the next guy, who doesnt know what the hell he is doing goes to fvcking with shitt and now everything is screwed up. So now you have to solve the problem. Do you throw it all away or fix what is there. kinda like Clinton - Bush - Obama.

 

[Lugnutz 10+ year member]

But Bankrupt? I could easily see them loosing market share and become just another company, but bankrupt?

When your market share goes from 50% to 19%, it seems likely bankruptcy is imminent.

 

[Slo_Ride 5,000+ posts]

When your market share goes from 50% to 19%, it seems likely bankruptcy is imminent.

exactly cant make people buy cars when they dont have any money

 

[duece212 5,000+ posts]

I can't believe the UAW was forced to give up their bonuses, thats just wrong!

 

[konechiwa 10+ year member]

When your market share goes from 50% to 19%, it seems likely bankruptcy is imminent.

19% isn't that bad, of course I am no expert, but with how many car companies out there, isn't that a still alright number..

 

[Lugnutz 10+ year member]

exactly cant make people buy cars when they dont have any money

It isn't just the money issue, it's the fact that GM and the other American auto maker struggled during the 80's to make cars to compete with the Asian companies who infiltrated America. The American companies lost ground to the Asians but there is still too much competition and GM has to scale back and streamline.

 

[Lugnutz 10+ year member]

19% isn't that bad, of course I am no expert, but with how many car companies out there, isn't that a still alright number..

One of every two vehicles sold in the US used to be a GM. Now it's 1 out of 5. GM has lost a lot of ground in the industry.

 

[Lugnutz 10+ year member]

I can't believe the UAW was forced to give up their bonuses, thats just wrong!

The only bonuses the UAW workers get is profit sharing, and well, when the company doesn't make a profit there is no bonus.

 

[fasfocus00 5,000+ posts]

No shit they can get new jobs. Im just that THAT is the only negative.
All of GM's cars are shit anyways. I'd take a ford, jap, or euro car anyday over GM garbage.

the world has spoken. amazing that it took GM over 20 years and filing bankrupcy to figure this out, yet they still say they are a viable company.

 

[konechiwa 10+ year member]

the world has spoken. amazing that it took GM over 20 years and filing bankrupcy to figure this out, yet they still say they are a viable company.

That's not true...I have a GM car, as does my Grandfather (both of which are over 10 years old) and they still run good have haven't had any problems.

 

[Lugnutz 10+ year member]

the world has spoken. amazing that it took GM over 20 years and filing bankrupcy to figure this out, yet they still say they are a viable company.

Only the ignorant have spoken not the world. GM's quality ratings in terms of service times over the first 3 years are right in line with all the automakers. They are actually above average in this department.

 

[fasfocus00 5,000+ posts]

yes, because the people that have worked their for 20+ years really knew back in the 80's that GM would declare bankruptcy on June 1st 2009. What moron's they are.

so when GM went to Capital Hill 8 months ago asking for their first 30 billion and said they do not have the capital to keep the company running for another 4 months? you make no sense

 

[Lugnutz 10+ year member]

That's not true...I have a GM car, as does my Grandfather (both of which are over 10 years old) and they still run good have haven't had any problems.

I have an 11 year old Grand Am and before that a 15 year old Saturn. Neither one have had any mechanical failure.

 

[Lugnutz 10+ year member]

so when GM went to Capital Hill 8 months ago asking for their first 30 billion and said they do not have the capital to keep the company running for another 4 months? you make no sense

I didn't know they did this 20 years ago. Where are the hundreds of thousands of GM workers suppose to get jobs? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif Lets not to forget unemployment rates and jobless rates are the highest in decades.

 

[fasfocus00 5,000+ posts]

That's not true...I have a GM car, as does my Grandfather (both of which are over 10 years old) and they still run good have haven't had any problems.

while everyone in your neighborhood drives a Nissan or Toyota right? yet again you make no sense. just b/c you know 2 ppl that drive GM cars means nothing b/c everyone else drive what you and your gramps call jap crap.