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[T.I.K. 10+ year member]

Tru Technology Billet up-grades (stage kits) ... :: TRU Technology ::

Ah, thanks

 

[gunz4me2 10+ year member]

I think it is nice to see an old name from back in the day revived and staying in the USA. There are all too many names from back in the day that are just shells of their former selves with manufacturing moving to China, Taiwan, Malaysia, Korea, or some other foreign nation.

See, I can be positive for a change!

 

[smoothfidelity 10+ year member]

I think it is nice to see an old name from back in the day revived and staying in the USA. There are all too many names from back in the day that are just shells of their former selves with manufacturing moving to China, Taiwan, Malaysia, Korea, or some other foreign nation.
See, I can be positive for a change!

Even though you are the guy who tries to ride the company into the ground with your comments of hatred on numerous forums with unsubstantiated opinions?

 

[kramer_212 10+ year member]

pick some of these up

 

[gunz4me2 10+ year member]

Even though you are the guy who tries to ride the company into the ground with your comments of hatred on numerous forums with unsubstantiated opinions?

People can change, but I see you are up to your usual ways. Ever pass the CPA exam yet?

 

[linearpower 10+ year member]

prices start at 1600.00 and considering upgrades, it looks like they could be over 3000.00

I think you have that a little confused, our LP2150 will retail from 1200-1300.00(we give you max SQ parts in our production model no need for upgrades), the price sheet with the billet upgrades was a COMPARISON of the TRU TECHNOLOGY 110 x 2 (DIRECTLYfrom their site)which starts at 1599.99 and with the billet stage 4 upgrades runs 2699.00. The unit with the stage 4 upgrades only contains SOME but not all that we offer in our 1200-1300.00 price range on the LP2150. Our LP2150 is a 150 x 2 RMS at 12.8 volts at 1oo HZ, NOT the 110 x 2 at 14.4 @ 1KHz used by Tru Technology, Zapco, and the other SQ grade amps. So watt for watt your gettting more power from our amps. The LP2150 will make 200+ RMS a channel into 14.4 volts at 1KHz., rated at CEA at max/peak power into 4 ohms at 1.0% THD that amp will make over 350 watts per channel, and I am being conservative.

 

[PPI_GUY 10+ year member]

Good luck to an American company employing Americans and keeping their production in America.

Having said that, I think the price points will leave alot of people wishing/wanting, including me. It'll be interesting to see how long car audio enthusiasts are willing to pay high dollar for class a/b topology when class D offers so many advantages (footprint, heat dissipation, efficency). There's no doubt these are quality pieces but the next time someone complains about car audio equipment being built overseas, they need to take a look at the MSRP of these babies.

Again, good luck with these.

 

[linearpower 10+ year member]

Class D can not currently offer and probably will never offer the sonic capability of Class A/B, for several reasons, one of which is the passive filter section in the output stage of the amp, it kills damping factor and dynamics. Also, Class D does not have the reliability factor of a well designed Clas A/B amp either. Our products are designed to by working and relevant products 20 years down the road, just as our old amps have proven themselves and are still being traded at top dollar 20 plus years later.

It all goes back to the statement I said in a earlier post, A Yugo has a motor and 4 wheels and drives down the road, so does the Mercedes. One cost less and has a very low resale and lasts only a few years, the other costs much more, but re-sales higher and lasts much longer, and can even be a Icon, and I don't think it is the Yugo.

We have improved the Class A/B overall efficiency on our new products into the 70 percent range with the power supply design being mid 80 percent range. The LP2150 will make rated power of 150 x 2 RMS with 30 amps of current. Our past 2.2HV made less power per channel and had to do it with a 40 amp fuse, it's power supply was only in the mid 50 percent efficiency range.

As far as Class D efficiencies, most don't live up to their ratings, some may be close to what they rate; but this past summer Mobile Electronics printed a report from an independant German test company that picked 25 amps to test, of which were around 20 of Class D design, and 4 or 5 that were Class A/B design. The Class A/B's ranged from a low in the high 50 perent range to the high of the low 70 percent range with one unit. The Class D amps never broke 80 percent range in testing, they ranged from a low of around 68 percent to a high or around 78 percent.

In car audio electronics, today, there are alot of playing with numbers by manufacturers to get the figures they want the public to see, and there are no complete specs given to tell the exact test conditions that most products are tested under to give you their power and efficiency specs.

 

[MANTI5 10+ year member]

Not to be argumentative because I do think you have some quality products, but in reality most people would reason they could get a much cheaper amp that is still considered a quality amp and will last quite a while. Should something go wrong they could still purchase a replacement or 2 for less than the cost of one of these. Now I'm all for buy once and forget about it being the way it should be, but for most people in this economy, the market for amps priced like these is pretty small I would imagine. Hope you do well, though.

 

[linearpower 10+ year member]

If you only could hear the difference in the product over the other SQ brands, you would feel it would be worth the money. If Zapco, Tru Technology, Audison, Focal, Mosconi have enough market share I am sure we will find ours too. We have already had the prototypes tested against several of these brands and it is hands down the veiw point of the individuals that have tested against these that our wins by a great margin. We have one multi-world champion(over 10 years) that has used one of these product brands for more than several years making the change to our product this year.

If you cost the price out for a cheaper amps with less SQ and figure the repair or replacement costs and the depreciated value over time versus the longivity of our products and resale value of the product, we are pennies a day to operate, well below the cost and upkeep of other products.

We are not building product for the masses, it is not for everyone, it is for the person that wants the best and wants it to last, just as our slogan says "For The Love of Music". If we were trying to corner the market on the 15-25 year old range, it would be built in China using inferior parts and priced with the other Chinese produced products. But for the SQ amps on the market we are one of the most economical if not he most economical one, and give you more power and sound for the dollar than any of the other brands I listed.

 

[sundownz Pro Seller]

I like the LP design attitude... it's not a product for everyone, though, and it's not made to be.

An electronics engineer would drool over the specifications and if you want THE BEST of anything the price rises pretty much exponentially over something that is "good" or even "really good" -- LP won't have a problem finding buyers... I'd guess many of the buyers won't be American, though, as overseas markets love USA made stuff and WILL pay for it.

Anyway -- best wishes to the guys at LP. I'll have to stop in and see you all at SBN.

 

[PPI_GUY 10+ year member]

As far as Class D efficiencies, most don't live up to their ratings, some may be close to what they rate; but this past summer Mobile Electronics printed a report from an independant German test company that picked 25 amps to test, of which were around 20 of Class D design, and 4 or 5 that were Class A/B design. The Class A/B's ranged from a low in the high 50 perent range to the high of the low 70 percent range with one unit. The Class D amps never broke 80 percent range in testing, they ranged from a low of around 68 percent to a high or around 78 percent.

If anyone can provide a quick link to the article mentioned in the above quote, I'd appreciate it. Too busy at the moment to go serching but, would love to read the test article. Thanks.

 

[linearpower 10+ year member]

I am looking for where I read the report, I thought it had been Mobile Electronics, it may not have been, hope I can find it. I'm looking back thru all the reading materials here. It may have been from an online source. Matter of fact I am going to retract it till I find the source, given time I will dig thru my mounds of papers and find it.

 

[sacsking916 5,000+ posts]

love me some old school goodness becoming more new school. love the older LP lineups, maybe one day i can snatch one of these up.

 

[linearpower 10+ year member]

Because you're saying "our amp compared to this company's amp", and not being specific as to which model you're referring to when said company has 3-4 of them. I'm also curious as to which Zapco 2x110 runs $1500 retail, as I don't know of one. I'm not sure if the C2K3.0 is what he was referring to, but even if the retail is that high, it can be had for under $900 from authorized dealers. I'm just saying that if your prices are THE prices you're using, then it's not really accurate to compare it to an overinflated MSRP figure from other high-end amp companies.
Now if the prices he quoted for the LP amps are also MSRP, and actual MAP would be a good bit lower, he should have mentioned that.

I didn't say Zapco had a $1499.99 110 x 2, the only mention I made to a 110 x 2 was the Tru Technology piece(which I have already posted prices of) because they don't have a 150 x 2. I said the other brands I listed had 150 x 2's starting in the 1499.00 range and up, well that is what I was trying to say at least. Sorry, if it was not understood as that.

Zapco CK2 2 Channel Pricing

creativecaraudio.com Zapco home page woofers.inc

(20% off sale) (15% off) (no warranty)

no warranty)

CK2-1.0X 2x25@14.4@1K into 4ohms N/A N/A N/A

CK2-2.0X 2x50@14.4@1K into 4ohms $1343.99 N/A N/A

CK2-2.0X.P 2x50@14.4@1K into 4ohms N/A $1120.30 $599.99

CK2-3.0X 2x75@14.4@1K into 4ohms $1679.00 N/A $869.99

CK2-6.0X 2x150@14.4@1K into 4ohms $2135.99 N/A N/A

CK2-9.0XD 2x300@14.4@1K into 4ohms $3335.99 N/A N/A

This is just a quick look of the internet. According to Zapco’s home site, if you buy from anyone other than them on the internet no matter how good the price, there is NO WARRANTY. Even considering an apparent discount our prices are still better or comparative, and you get our warranty! This is not a complete price listing but the missing figures can be calculated in proportionately according to size and price, as well as the discounted amounts.

Linear Power

LP2075 75x2RMS @12.8 @100Hz into 4 ohms $900-1000.00 makes well in excess of 100x2@14.4

LP2150 150x2RMS @12.8 @100Hz into 4 ohms $1200-1300.00 makes a min. of 200x2@14.4

LP2250 250x2RMS @12.8 @100Hz into 4 ohms $1800-1900.00 makes well in excess of 350x2@ 14.4

Even considering massive discounts on the other brands we are are still one of the best economical choices for really high end SQ amps, and watt for watt the price even looks better.