My install's coming along nicely

[Boomin_tahoe 5,000+ posts]

Man, I cam back to see more bikini girls....wtf?!! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[JohnKuthe]

The idea of a neural connection for music with no speakers is retarded. In a proper setting, you can FEEL the music. That's the best part of live events. You can feelphysically feel it, not just hear it.

Correct you'd need the tactile feeling too.

Moreover, that would be a "fake system". It would trick your mind into thinking it heard something that it didn't. Stop trying to sound intelligent. You're clearly not.

it was an idea I had as a teenager. They even made a movie about it released in 1983: Brainstorm!



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[mlstrass 5,000+ posts]

 

[JohnKuthe]

Love the color! I prefer a lot deeper richer purple myslef, and I can do without all the finnage.

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[JohnKuthe]

Retard centrel. Buy 600$ components and dsp yet doesnt go active and uses 6x9s as midbass.

Not yet going full active, but planning for it in the near future! And I use 6x9's because Baby II has four factory mounting locations for them!! I want ALL of this installation as "stealth" as possible. And my Alpine SPR-69 R series drivers sound pretty damned good too, just from the HU powering them through the factory wiring. Imagine how they will sound when being amped 100W individually through 12AWG speaker wire!

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[ilikeradios 10+ year member]

Not yet going full active, but planning for it in the near future! And I use 6x9's because Baby II has four factory mounting locations for them!! I want ALL of this installation as "stealth" as possible. And my Alpine SPR-69 R series drivers sound pretty damned good too, just from the HU powering them through the factory wiring. Imagine how they will sound when being amped 100W individually through 12AWG speaker wire!
John Kuthe...

The size of the wire is not going to make them sound any different.

You could have easily used 6.5" drivers in the 6x9 location, why do you keep acting like 6x9 was the only driver possible to use there?

 

[JohnKuthe]

The size of the wire is not going to make them sound any different.

It will allow them to take advantage of more of the full power from the amplifier. If wire size didn't affect the sound we'd be running 32AWG everywhere.

You could have easily used 6.5" drivers in the 6x9 location, why do you keep acting like 6x9 was the only driver possible to use there?

Because the stock speakers were 6x9's, and the stock mounts are fitted for them, perfectly. Yes I could have used adaptors to fit other side speakers there but I chose NOT TO! What part of that don't YOU get?

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[SgtHawk]

its just advice people are offering, use it or dont. nobody really cares, theyre just recommendations based on experience and research that could potentially give you more of what you think you want out of your fake system.

but like i said, its your fake system, your money, installer guys time, i couldnt care less nor could anybody else about what you decide to do. Just try not to come back and complain about anything people offered to help with. or do. **** do i care, this thread is amusing.

 

[jRi0T68]

He won't complain about how it sounds. He's so clueless that it could sound like a stock Honda from the early 80s, and he'd think it was fantastic. He's too arrogant to allow himself to believe that it isn't perfect.

 

[JohnKuthe]

He won't complain about how it sounds. He's so clueless that it could sound like a stock Honda from the early 80s, and he'd think it was fantastic. He's too arrogant to allow himself to believe that it isn't perfect.

I KNOW it's not gonna be perfect! But it's gonna be the best I can make it be. Little help from many here.

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[jRi0T68]

You've been given a tremendous amount of help, which could have made it better than it will be, without harming factory look, but you're incapable of learning, so you disregard every bit of advice you're given.

 

[JohnKuthe]

You've been given a tremendous amount of help, which could have made it better than it will be, without harming factory look, but you're incapable of learning, so you disregard every bit of advice you're given.

Technological things can always be better. But there DOES exist a state called "gud enuf" and I misspell it egregiously on purpose to illustrate the extent of gud enuf!

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[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

Technological things can always be better. But there DOES exist a state called "gud enuf" and I misspell it egregiously on purpose to illustrate the extent of gud enuf!
John Kuthe...

With this level of equipment and the DSP, good enough can be very bad. It's not plug and play, that gets you good enough. This can go from nightmare to gold or the other way around with a simple touch of on tuning control.

 

[JohnKuthe]

With this level of equipment and the DSP, good enough can be very bad. It's not plug and play, that gets you good enough. This can go from nightmare to gold or the other way around with a simple touch of on tuning control.

And that's where all my past experiences and my Electrical Engineering degree will serve me well. I know quite a bit about frequency responses electrically and roll offs, crossovers, hi pass. lo pass, band pass, and decibels, clipping etc. And I trust the DSP will give me the ability to control those signal processing filters quite precisely! So I am very excited about playing with it!

What I can't quite wrap my head around with the DSP is with each and every step in the electrical sound reproduction every piece of equipment has it's own signal modifying settings, and it seems to me that with a capable DSP one would want to simply bypass/disable all the signal processing in the HU and amps and let the DSP take over that role electrically. Am I far off here? What's the DSP wisdom on that stuff, if you please?

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[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

And that's where all my past experiences and my Electrical Engineering degree will serve me well. I know quite a bit about frequency responses electrically and roll offs, crossovers, hi pass. lo pass, band pass, and decibels, clipping etc. And I trust the DSP will give me the ability to control those signal processing filters quite precisely! So I am very excited about playing with it!
What I can't quite wrap my head around with the DSP is with each and every step in the electrical sound reproduction every piece of equipment has it's own signal modifying settings, and it seems to me that with a capable DSP one would want to simply bypass/disable all the signal processing in the HU and amps and let the DSP take over that role electrically. Am I far off here? What's the DSP wisdom on that stuff, if you please?

John Kuthe...

It still receives its signal from the source. You will open up all the filters in the amps and flatten everything on the headunit. Turn everything you can to off or 0