Spud2388
Satan
Banned
Ipod
Satan
Banned
See, my point exactly.. does any mp3 player come close to ipod storage wise? 40gigs, for under $400, your not going to find that in any "zen"
Do you NEED 40 gigs... no.. are you ever going to really USE 40 gigs... no... but its there.. just to sit there, and for you to look at, and know that you have...
I have 1,900some odd songs on my 40 gig currently, and still have %60 free...
Do you NEED 40 gigs... no.. are you ever going to really USE 40 gigs... no... but its there.. just to sit there, and for you to look at, and know that you have...
I have 1,900some odd songs on my 40 gig currently, and still have %60 free...
_DjScrew_
5,000+ posts
CarAudio.com Veteran
yea, and try to find a good cd player interface. go with the ipod bro. then you have many different interfaces to choose from, depending on the hu you have. you can go to like http://www.crutchfiel.com and go to the ipod for auto section or something like that.
DiamondFanatic
10+ year member
CarAudio.com Elite
x3 on the iPod.
New generation is 299$ for 30 gigs, and you get more options for an interface and more accessories are available for iPods then any other player.
And what you pointed out about the batteries failing was not true on either the 3rd gen or 4th gen versions. That was a major design flaw of the 1st version of the iPod and was fixed. I purchased 3-year Apple Care for my 40gig 4th gen so even if the battery does break on me in 2 1/2 years or whatever I won't care, they'll fix it or just send me a brand new one. 60$ well spent IMO.
New generation is 299$ for 30 gigs, and you get more options for an interface and more accessories are available for iPods then any other player.
And what you pointed out about the batteries failing was not true on either the 3rd gen or 4th gen versions. That was a major design flaw of the 1st version of the iPod and was fixed. I purchased 3-year Apple Care for my 40gig 4th gen so even if the battery does break on me in 2 1/2 years or whatever I won't care, they'll fix it or just send me a brand new one. 60$ well spent IMO.
Satan
Banned
x2 on trying to find a good way to connect it to your car unless its the ipod
bikejunkie223
10+ year member
Dls Wh0re
Everyone wants to flame on the ipod for it's batteries, yet I have had 2 and both my brothers have on, all are about 4 years old (mine is 6 months) and noone I know has had battery problems. itunes is easy to use, you just drop your cd in the drive on your computer and open itunes. you click on the cd and then a big friggin button in the upper rght corner of the screen, and it imports it. Ipods> everything else in it's price range, or market segment.
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Spud2388
10+ year member
"The Spud-n-ator"
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well, yall made me change my mind. The new iPOD 30gb Black is what i want.
Now to control everything through my Alpine HU, what do i need. I saw th iPOD control interface on crutchfield, but read the reviews and they said it was slow and a pain. Is there anything else i can use?
Now to control everything through my Alpine HU, what do i need. I saw th iPOD control interface on crutchfield, but read the reviews and they said it was slow and a pain. Is there anything else i can use?
On looking for an MP3 player:
#1 - Memory / Hard drive capacity
When I had my 10gig iPod back in 2003, I never thought I would surpass more than 5gigs, but now I've got close to 40 gigs of music. I currently have 3 20gig mp3 players. Each one serves selected genres. So I say overestimate how much space you "think" you may need. Also, think about mp3/codec quality. I used to mess with 128kbs mp3s mainly because of limited hard drive space & because I had a 56k modem (and only downloaded tracks that were 128kbs and MAYBE 160kbs - a 192 & up file was only if I really wanted it). But all that's changed now, as I've started to actually care about good-quality music and hard drive space is getting cheaper everyday. With a high-speed internet connection now, I download the highest quality music (if there's a selection between low-quality & high-quality). You gotta beware though, because a lot of music on the internet is garbage quality re-encoded to a higher bitrate. So basically think about what you're gonna be using it for, do you expect to acquire a lot of music in the future to be able to listen to on your mp3 player, how often you'd listen to it, etc...
#2 - Usage
This fits in with how much capacity you need. For instance, if you're only gonna use it for working out, you'd probably only have music that you wanna work-out to. But if you're like me & you take it everywhere you go, you need something that can take all types of environments. A hard drive-based mp3 player is bad if you're gonna be constantly moving. However, I ignore this fact cause flash players just haven't reached the capacity I need yet; also, as long is you're careful, shouldn't matter too mushc. If you don't know the difference between a hard-drive & a flash-based player, it's like this: hard-drive=big,moving parts,failure-rate=high; flash=small,no moving parts,extremely low failure-rate.
#3 Type of music
I haven't encountered a (portable) digital audio player (DAP) (most people confuse MP3 player with DAP) that didn't play mp3s. But if you mess with other types of files, you need a DAP that can support those files. For example, WMA, Vorbis (ogg), FLAC, AAC, etc. The DAP I use supports mp3 (mpeg1-layer3), FLAC (lossless), WMA (windows media), ogg (vorbis), and wav. 90% of my music is ogg. I encode all my CDs to FLAC, create a duplicate conversion to ogg, burn the FLAC to a DVD, and delete the FLAC off my hard drive.
#4 Method of transfer
USB and Firewire are the usual means of transferring music to your DAP and vice versa. Firewire is on Macs/Apple by default, and USB is on PCs by default. So make sure you have the right hardware. My DAP (Rio Karma) uses USB & has an ethernet port. Then there's a Java client (which can run on ANY os/computer as long as they have the Java Runtime [or VM] installed) that transfers the music to the device over IP. This is method of transfer is common for the linux guys where an official linux client doesn't exist.
#5 Extra Features
You should look at 1-4 before you even consider extra features. Extra features can go along the lines of video/photo support, customizable EQs, recording features, extra outputs, UI, etc. First question is do you need all of that stuff. I think a lot of times we as consumers say while looking at advertisements, "You can do that???" but in the end, we won't even use that feature. That's why I don't care about recording/photo/video support on mine cause #1 I have a camera phone, and #2 all I'm looking to do with it is listen to music. So before you get big eyes over a feature, ask yourself, will I really use this? Or is it just a "get-it-to-make-me-look-cool kinda feature".
Just some things to think about.
#1 - Memory / Hard drive capacity
When I had my 10gig iPod back in 2003, I never thought I would surpass more than 5gigs, but now I've got close to 40 gigs of music. I currently have 3 20gig mp3 players. Each one serves selected genres. So I say overestimate how much space you "think" you may need. Also, think about mp3/codec quality. I used to mess with 128kbs mp3s mainly because of limited hard drive space & because I had a 56k modem (and only downloaded tracks that were 128kbs and MAYBE 160kbs - a 192 & up file was only if I really wanted it). But all that's changed now, as I've started to actually care about good-quality music and hard drive space is getting cheaper everyday. With a high-speed internet connection now, I download the highest quality music (if there's a selection between low-quality & high-quality). You gotta beware though, because a lot of music on the internet is garbage quality re-encoded to a higher bitrate. So basically think about what you're gonna be using it for, do you expect to acquire a lot of music in the future to be able to listen to on your mp3 player, how often you'd listen to it, etc...
#2 - Usage
This fits in with how much capacity you need. For instance, if you're only gonna use it for working out, you'd probably only have music that you wanna work-out to. But if you're like me & you take it everywhere you go, you need something that can take all types of environments. A hard drive-based mp3 player is bad if you're gonna be constantly moving. However, I ignore this fact cause flash players just haven't reached the capacity I need yet; also, as long is you're careful, shouldn't matter too mushc. If you don't know the difference between a hard-drive & a flash-based player, it's like this: hard-drive=big,moving parts,failure-rate=high; flash=small,no moving parts,extremely low failure-rate.
#3 Type of music
I haven't encountered a (portable) digital audio player (DAP) (most people confuse MP3 player with DAP) that didn't play mp3s. But if you mess with other types of files, you need a DAP that can support those files. For example, WMA, Vorbis (ogg), FLAC, AAC, etc. The DAP I use supports mp3 (mpeg1-layer3), FLAC (lossless), WMA (windows media), ogg (vorbis), and wav. 90% of my music is ogg. I encode all my CDs to FLAC, create a duplicate conversion to ogg, burn the FLAC to a DVD, and delete the FLAC off my hard drive.
#4 Method of transfer
USB and Firewire are the usual means of transferring music to your DAP and vice versa. Firewire is on Macs/Apple by default, and USB is on PCs by default. So make sure you have the right hardware. My DAP (Rio Karma) uses USB & has an ethernet port. Then there's a Java client (which can run on ANY os/computer as long as they have the Java Runtime [or VM] installed) that transfers the music to the device over IP. This is method of transfer is common for the linux guys where an official linux client doesn't exist.
#5 Extra Features
You should look at 1-4 before you even consider extra features. Extra features can go along the lines of video/photo support, customizable EQs, recording features, extra outputs, UI, etc. First question is do you need all of that stuff. I think a lot of times we as consumers say while looking at advertisements, "You can do that???" but in the end, we won't even use that feature. That's why I don't care about recording/photo/video support on mine cause #1 I have a camera phone, and #2 all I'm looking to do with it is listen to music. So before you get big eyes over a feature, ask yourself, will I really use this? Or is it just a "get-it-to-make-me-look-cool kinda feature".
Just some things to think about.
slick rick
10+ year member
OG
+1 on getting the 60 gig over the interface. also, go with the education discount and get 10% off ANYTHING on apples website. my 30 gig black was 269. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
iPod. Hands down. /thread
Totally disagree....
Here's my rio karma (pictures were taken a while back - when I had a Dual brand HU & no kick-panel pds)
With the Rio Karma having RCA outputs, and the HU having RCA inputs...well you tell me how much easier it can get...
I actually secured the whole dock under the ash-tray (right where you see the green bottle of super-glue sticking out).
Rattlebrain
10+ year member
alcoholic
Does that HU have an Aux. input?
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