Is turning gain all the way up necessarily a bad thing?

[cravistaz]

far from it newb

 

[JeepBeats96JGC 10+ year member]

You fail. STFU. Go back to the begining of the thread.

for all you donkey's that think a gain control is a volume knob...

Contrary to popular belief, an amplifiers gain control does not determine the maximum power that an amplifier can produce. As long as the preamp/drive signal has sufficient level, the amplifier will produce its maximum power output level. The gain controls are used to match the amplifer's gain to the gain of the other amplifiers in the system (in the case of a multi-amp system). The gain controls also allow you to match the amplifier(s) to the head unit. Not all head units have the same maximum preamp output voltage. Some head units are capable of producing 9 vrms out while others are only capable of 1.5 vrms out. note that a head unit will reach its maximum output level (clipping) well before the volume control reaches the upper end of its range (usually at a point of 85-90% of its maximum range).

The output of some decks will clip at less than 50% of its full volume when the loudness is engaged or bass and treble are boosted. Many of the low to mid priced head units have a maximum output level (before clipping) of 2 vrms. If a 100hz test tone is played in the head unit and the bass control boosts signal levels at 100hz by 10dB, the output would clip if the pre bass boosted signal would have been .63 vrms. In other words, If the output of the 100hz test tone is more than .63 vrms and the bass control was turned to its maximum level, the signal would clip. This would very likely be at less than one-half volume.

Clarification of Terminology:

Generally, when someone says that you need to 'turn the gains up', you need to make the amplifier more sensitive. When you make the amplifier more sensitive, it will take less input signal to to produce a given amount of power. The confusion comes in when you look at the gain control markings on the amplifier. If they are marked in volts, it's generally the amount of input voltage that it takes to produce full power. When you turn the gains 'up' you turn the gain control to a 'lower' (smaller) number. For example, the gains are higher at 2 volts than they are at 4 volts.

 

[DidUHearThat? 10+ year member]

for all you donkey's that think a gain control is a volume knob...
Contrary to popular belief, an amplifiers gain control does not determine the maximum power that...

Not only have you not read this thread, but now your passing off quotes from another site as your own. I suggest you wipe the *** off your face, read more and post less.

No one said the gain is a volume knob cawk smoker. You copied the text from bcae1.com. I suggest you read it and understand it, not just copy and paste. And stop putting things in your *** ***.

http://www.bcae1.com/gaincon2.htm

 

[CobraStang98 10+ year member]

Not only have you not read this thread, but now your passing off quotes from another site as your own. I suggest you wipe the *** off your face, read more and post less.
No one said the gain is a volume knob cawk smoker. You copied the text from bcae1.com. I suggest you read it and understand it, not just copy and paste. And stop putting things in your *** ***.

http://www.bcae1.com/gaincon2.htm

Wow u just about covered everything regarding that post u quoted... Fvcking ppl trying to take notes from the web and play them off as theirs to sound smart.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[JeepBeats96JGC 10+ year member]

Not only have you not read this thread, but now your passing off quotes from another site as your own. I suggest you wipe the *** off your face, read more and post less.
No one said the gain is a volume knob cawk smoker. You copied the text from bcae1.com. I suggest you read it and understand it, not just copy and paste. And stop putting things in your *** ***.

http://www.bcae1.com/gaincon2.htm

i didnt say it was my own, just posting what you asshats fail to educate yourselves on. "just turn it up" "yea man thats what a gain is for it wouldnt be there if it wasnt meant to be turned all the way up mannnnn"

ill just sit back and wont say anything while you sit here and give the kid info thats going to clip and damage his subs. forum troll. sit back and grief posts and offer nothing. i must admit it is pretty cute how your internet friends hang on your every word and wait for you to make the first ignorant comment, what other tricks can you make them do?

 

[DidUHearThat? 10+ year member]

i didnt say it was my own, just posting what you asshats fail to educate yourselves on. "just turn it up" "yea man thats what a gain is for it wouldnt be there if it wasnt meant to be turned all the way up mannnnn"
ill just sit back and wont say anything while you sit here and give the kid info thats going to clip and damage his subs. forum troll. sit back and grief posts and offer nothing. i must admit it is pretty cute how your internet friends hang on your every word and wait for you to make the first ignorant comment, what other tricks can you make them do?

Have you ever been gang ***** by a group of large angry black men?

Would you like to be?

 

[Alpine4life89 10+ year member]

Goddamn you all to hell. Does gain make a difference in how long your amps last? Yes, you don't ever, nor should you ever have to turn them up all the way. keeping your head unit at about 75% should never allow you to max out your gains. I just set mine by ear at 25/35 on my alpine just in case some cd's are recorded at a lower level. It's not that fucken hard, you should be able to tell if there is any distortion by using your damn ears. It's so stupid to dwell on this, i did it for the longest time and i am so glad i am over it.

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

******* you all to hell. Does gain make a difference in how long your amps last? Yes, you don't ever, nor should you ever have to turn them up all the way.

In home audio, different components have different levels of input sensitivity, without any potentiometers to control it. Does that mean one kind of component is necessarily going to burn out faster?

Don't believe me, though. Find someone with an adjustable signal generator and a clamp meter, and start playing around with line level voltages and potentiometer positions //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[GMCJimmyslt2000 10+ year member]

U need to quit spamming, I hope u get banned ***. ^^

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

Goddamn you all to hell. Does gain make a difference in how long your amps last? Yes, you don't ever, nor should you ever have to turn them up all the way. keeping your head unit at about 75% should never allow you to max out your gains. I just set mine by ear at 25/35 on my alpine just in case some cd's are recorded at a lower level. It's not that fucken hard, you should be able to tell if there is any distortion by using your damn ears. It's so stupid to dwell on this, i did it for the longest time and i am so glad i am over it.

Honestly dood, you are still learning................if you want to call it that and you shouldn't give advice to anybody.........especially from someone who can't get his front stage loud off 500rms.....

 

[Lakota 5,000+ posts]

You can turn your gain all the way up if you have a low voltage input. There's nothing wrong with having a high gain, what matters is the signal coming out of the amp.

 

[Skip01 5,000+ posts]

Wang it full out, with no ill effects.

That's my motto

 

[GAM3OVR 5,000+ posts]

The JeepBeats96JGC guy is a fuckin moron, I bet he jerks it to pioneer's 09 catalog every night

 

[dragnix 5,000+ posts]

The JeepBeats96JGC guy is a fuckin moron, I bet he jerks it to pioneer's 09 catalog every night

what's wrong with that? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/sneaky.gif.7189749b3a3f769e8815b47e8ae87f88.gif

 

[GAM3OVR 5,000+ posts]

fap fap fap?