I have a huge problem with "remembering" 9/11

[Beat_Dominator 5,000+ posts]

It's all crap. Let's move to Canada.

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

It's all crap. Let's move to Canada.

agreed, plus i want be too far from home

 

[hoss 5,000+ posts]

I've talked to several people today.. co-workers.. friends.. people on the net.
No one was connected to anyone that died there in any way... yet they were all telling me how sad it was and how bad they feel. Yes. It was a sad thing. It was a loss of many lives. However... why in the world would you, someone who had no connection to any of these people... feel sad about it 5 years later? Hundreds of thousands of people die every year. A lot of them for no good reason. Are you mourning their deaths? Deaths of cancer patients?? Deaths of children who were killed in accidents?? Deaths of people trying to help those who are down and out that get caught in the middle of a battle and get killed?? Deaths of firefighters/police/EMTs?? Deaths of other heros?

No.

Why? Because that doesn't make you a part of a nationally recognized big event.

Anyone who's still "mourning" 9/11 is just lying to themselves. They don't really care.. they just want to say what they were doing on some day that everyone remembers so that they'll feel special.

they still mourn because it wasnt an atack on people, it was an attack on america. and before anyone else jumps on my reply, no i didnt read the whole thread, im not going to, and i dont care if this has been covered already or not. the purpose of remembering is not the people that lost their lives that day, its in rememberance of what happened to america that day, to americaNs that day. and regaurdless of if you were there, if you knew the people, or even if you remember what you were doing or where you were when it happened, it is now a part of OUR history. something that isnt going to change, nor is it going to be forgotten. it is about remembering the day that someone tried to take something from us, and tear us down, and instead we became stronger and more together. and sure it is sad that lots of people lost their lives, but its not neccesarily about that. alot of people mourn for that, but more so, people mourn for what america lost, and then they can celebrate what we gained from the experience.

Two words...
Pearl Harbor.

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exactly... you think people make fun of others sympathizing for pearl harbor? do people get made fun of or criticized for crying at the vietnam memorial? its part of our history, something not to be forgotten...

 

[yne721 10+ year member]

exactly... you think people make fun of others sympathizing for pearl harbor? do people get made fun of or criticized for crying at the vietnam memorial? its part of our history, something not to be forgotten...

the only thing i have to say about that is I think both of the two things you mentioned affected A LOT more people nationwide. But i'm not going to guarantee that so don't take offense to it.

familes from all over the country had people dying in the vietnam war.

Pearl Harbor started a war that affected the whole country.

How many people in america suffered personal loss in 9/11? I don't know one person. How many people suffered personal loss in vietnam or world war II, i can name relatives that suffered personal loss from both of the aforementioned(sp) wars...

there were only(and i say that compared only to the two above mentioned instances) 1100 something deaths at the WTC. It's nothing compared to World War II and Vietnam

 

[Vicodin113 10+ year member]

Im not gonna read all of the thread but;

Weither or not this was planed,

Weither the building DIDNT fall from the plane,

Weither people were at the site so fast and they couldnt do that for New Orleans,

The fact is people died.

After watching videos and seeing LIVE people at that time die and fall to there death from builds, I can place my self into that situation and just imagine what I would feel and what I would of done.

We can connect to things and can feel emotions.

I had a tear run down my face watching a show on HBO with people crying, jumping out of builds, burnt bodys, crushed in the rubble, and seeing other people talk about there loved ones.

Now would I have a tear? No most likley not. But each person is there own, no one is the same and thats what sperates us. So because you dont feel it doesnt mean other people SHOULDNT.

Each person has there own RIGHT to feel what they want. If I saw someone cry, **** they have the right to do it if they feel it.

And weither it was staged/planed or what not, IT STILL WAS AN ATTACK ON AMERICA. More then one race, more then one person, male or females (maybe trannys 2.. .who knows), all walks of lives were affected...killed...hurt.

It was an attack on us all.

 

[Beat_Dominator 5,000+ posts]

Pearl Harbor started a war that affected the whole country.

there were only(and i say that compared only to the two above mentioned instances) 1100 something deaths at the WTC. It's nothing compared to World War II and Vietnam

9/11 caused the war on terror.... like 4,000+ deaths right?

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

i'm fairly certain more then 1100 people died in the world trade center. hell 340 firfighters died alone

 

[Beat_Dominator 5,000+ posts]

i'm fairly certain more then 1100 people died in the world trade center. hell 340 firfighters died alone

No it really wasn't that many; less than 2,000 I'm pretty sure. A lot of the people were evacuated.

 

[yne721 10+ year member]

9/11 caused the war on terror.... like 4,000+ deaths right?

Compared to the 408,399 deaths of americans in World War II, only 3,000 of which were civilians...

and compared to the 58,209 casualties of Vietnam, not to mention the other 153,303 which were wounded....

you've only proven my point.

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

Compared to the 408,399 deaths of americans in World War II, only 3,000 of which were civilians...
and compared to the 58,209 casualties of Vietnam, not to mention the other 153,303 which were wounded....

you've only proven my point.

jeez only a thousand people died, no big deal //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif the town i live in has only 1000 people

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

and it was 2973 people who died, also this was the first time that the US was attacked on our soil

 

[yne721 10+ year member]

i'm fairly certain more then 1100 people died in the world trade center. hell 340 firfighters died alone

I stand corrected. that 1100 people was in the first tower.

there were 2595 people killed on 9/11, and that doesn't include the 157 who were on the flights.

but it's not even close to world war II or vietnam....

 

[Beat_Dominator 5,000+ posts]

Compared to the 408,399 deaths of americans in World War II, only 3,000 of which were civilians...
and compared to the 58,209 casualties of Vietnam, not to mention the other 153,303 which were wounded....

you've only proven my point.

There are a lot of people deployed right now, they are affecting their loved ones as well, even if they're healthy. I'm just saying your "1100" number is way off when concerning those directly or indirectly affected by 9/11, on top of that, we could also count all of the dead people in the middle east, and throughout europ whom are feeling the effects of Terrorism.

 

[yne721 10+ year member]

jeez only a thousand people died, no big deal //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif the town i live in has only 1000 people

the town I live in has 140,000

and the way you say that, makes it seem even less important.

"wow our country got attacked and only 1000 people died? we got off light"

 

[yne721 10+ year member]

you guys made me miss my 1000th post //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

not to mention the fact I don't even know why we're arguing. If you're sad about 9/11 then that's fine. But I don't push my views on you so don't push yours on mine.

All i was saying is that 9/11 is nothing compared to pearl harbor or vietnam.