First of all it would be VERY strange because Adam and Eve would have to have every genetic possible allele in existance in their bodies. One would have to have all dominant traits and the other have all recessive traits, or a mixture of the two. Not only that but their offspring would have to carry every allelle they possesed. Which is VERY unlikely considering how the production of gametes work and the fact that every gamete has a different variation of the parent's DNA.
Furthermore, all genes (both dominant and recessive plus others *some alleles have three or even four possibilities*) would have to be present when Noah came about.
Man, miss a day and you miss a lot! LOL! First of all Osiris, let me say kudo's to you for your obvious effort and time, not to mention listing resources and links. I rarely find a person willing or able to stand up for their beliefs with research to back it up. You've earned a great deal of my respect, whether I agree with you or not.
I will address one of your points now in the interest of space and touch on others as I go. I'll admit I'll have to do some research of my own to address some of them. You make legitmate stands based on the information you have, but much of it is hinged on if the dates you are using are correct.
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To whom it may concern:
A question has occurred to me. If the creationist standpoint is that Adam and Eve carried the entire human genome between them, which has only degraded since the Fall, does this mean that there can be only two optimal versions of any given gene in the human genome?
To clarify: If all humans descended from Adam and Eve's genome, which may have been "perfect," and mutation and natural selection only degrade a genome instead of give rise to new traits, then the presence of three or more versions of a gene in the human genome that work as well as possible would be impossible to reconcile from the creationist perspective, correct? After all, there is nowhere to "evolve" to from those first genes but "down." A third or fourth or fifth equally viable version should not be able to arise if mutation and natural selection can only lose information.
Obviously, the definitions of "perfect" and "equally viable" are vague, and the makeup of a single gene fantastically complex, but am I right in assuming that creationism makes the prediction that there will never be more than two versions of a gene that are completely dissimilar, yet fully and equally viable?
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To whom it may concern:
A question has occurred to me. If the creationist standpoint is that Adam and Eve carried the entire human genome between them, which has only degraded since the Fall, does this mean that there can be only two optimal versions of any given gene in the human genome?
You seem to have forgotten that humans are diploid, which means that two people could carry four different alleles for each locus.
To clarify: If all humans descended from Adam and Eve's genome, which may have been "perfect," and mutation and natural selection only degrade a genome instead of give rise to new traits, then the presence of three or more versions of a gene in the human genome that work as well as possible would be impossible to reconcile from the creationist perspective, correct? After all, there is nowhere to "evolve" to from those first genes but "down." A third or fourth or fifth equally viable version should not be able to arise if mutation and natural selection can only lose information.
We also point out that some mutations are neutral, e.g. that affect amino acids on the side chain far from the active site of an enzyme. A ‘sideways’ change (no change in complexity) is viable, because ‘optimal’ depends on the environment as well. There would have been a variety of environments even before the Fall. Carried to its logical conclusion, if there was only one type of perfection, then there would be only one type of organism. But it was the whole creation that God called very good, so the physical perfection would pertain to the ecosystem as a whole rather than individuals.
Obviously, the definitions of "perfect" and "equally viable" are vague, and the makeup of a single gene fantastically complex, but am I right in assuming that creationism makes the prediction that there will never be more than two versions of a gene that are completely dissimilar, yet fully and equally viable?
No you are not, because of the simple blooper you made above, aside from the philosophical considerations I outlined briefly.
(Dr) Jonathan Sarfati."
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Don Matten:
"Question: If we came from Adam and Eve who, one would think, could have had only one blood group each, how do humans now have four blood groups—A, B, AB and O?
Answer: There is one gene in humans that controls the ABO blood type. There are three versions, or alleles, of the gene: A, B, or O. Since the gene is always present as a pair of alleles, with one inherited from each parent, two alleles are always present, so that the possible genetic make-up of any individual is AA, BB, AB, AO, BO, or OO. The 'O' allele is recessive to the A or B, meaning that in the presence of the A or B allele, the blood type is determined by the A or B allele. That is, an AO person has A-type blood; a BO person has B-type blood, whereas only an OO person has O-type blood. Anyone with O-type blood is called a universal donor because their blood lacks the A or B proteins so that O-type blood can be given to a person with A, B or AB type blood. If, for example, A-type blood is given to a person with B-type blood, an allergic reaction can result in death of the recipient.
For a husband and wife to pass on all alleles to their children, they need to, between them, have the A, B, and O alleles. So Adam and Eve could have had any of the following genetic make-ups:
AO and BO, or AB and OO, or AB and AO, or AB and BO, or AA and BO, or BB and AO.
If Adam and Eve were genetically AO and BO, for example, their children could have had AB, AO, BO or OO genetic make-up, giving AB, A, B, or O blood types. Indeed, about 25% of their children would have been of each type.
If Adam and Eve had 56 children, as per Jewish tradition, then there would have been about 14 of each blood group in Adam and Eve's family."
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