Could someone make an electric vehicle that never has to plug into an outlet?

[jockhater2 10+ year member]

Turning the alt requires more power than the alt puts out.

Dang. Really? Well I am glad I learned something new!

 

[brodeisel 10+ year member]

What if the axels had generators on them then all you would need to do is move your car and it would charge. Could have at least 4 generators.

 

[Fiendstolemyamp 10+ year member]

What if the axels had generators on them then all you would need to do is move your car and it would charge. Could have at least 4 generators.

Still takes more energy to turn the generators than what would be produced.

 

[brodeisel 10+ year member]

hmm yeah not unless we made some super efficient way. Im just waiting for hydrogen cars then we will be golden. Wont be for like 30 years though //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif.

 

[jockhater2 10+ year member]

hmm yeah not unless we made some super efficient way. Im just waiting for hydrogen cars then we will be golden. Wont be for like 30 years though //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif.

I thought they already have them in some countries.

That generators in the axel idea sounded pretty good. LOL stupid "Still takes more energy to turn the generators than what would be produced."

 

[clysports]

It might work for a certain amount of time but eventually you would still have to plug the car in to charge up.

No machine is 100% efficient with its power, thats why engines, computers, and really everything else that uses power builds up heat during use. The more heat produced, the less efficient it is a taking its energy and converting that to usable power, the hotter it becomes. So it is a challenge to create a completely efficient vehicle, but because of friction, gravity, and other forces, that is really impossible.

Good idea though!

 

[brandinooooo 10+ year member]

The axle way is would be the only logical solution but it still wouldn't cover the amount of energy being used.

 

[ahole-ic]

Whoosh go the contrails over your head

Lol I really wish you were as smart as you think you are. You are a legend in your own mind.

 

[mast240 10+ year member]

in a perfect world, where there is no resistance of motion, and 100% efficient machines... then this might be possible. but, sadly, that is not the world we live in..... there is wind resistance, friction of tires, bearings, etc.... and no machine will ever be 100% efficient.... it's not possible. so, you will always consume more energy than you create. even internal combustion engines are HUGELY inefficient, no matter what gas mileage they get.

 

[jockhater2 10+ year member]

in a perfect world, where there is no resistance of motion, and 100% efficient machines... then this might be possible. but, sadly, that is not the world we live in..... there is wind resistance, friction of tires, bearings, etc.... and no machine will ever be 100% efficient.... it's not possible. so, you will always consume more energy than you create. even internal combustion engines are HUGELY inefficient, no matter what gas mileage they get.

what about the vw polo in europe that gets 99MPG

 

[ahole-ic]

what about the vw polo in europe that gets 99MPG

It doesn't. Volkswagen Polo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The best any model of it ever did was the 4.0L turbo diesel. It got 58.8mpg which is pretty good. The diesel combined with almost no weight is what achieved it.

 

[MisterDeadeye 10+ year member]

Lol I really wish you were as smart as you think you are. You are a legend in your own mind.

This post made me laugh.

 

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

We will need to make some revolutionary discoveries in both superconductors and solar to come up with a car that doesn't need fuel/charging. Hydrogen is probably the worst of all as you lose even more energy storing energy as hydrogen.

In the nearer future I think battery technology may evolve to a point where electric cars are almost practical for most uses. You still have the issue of by what means you produce all the electricity.

 

[jockhater2 10+ year member]

It doesn't. Volkswagen Polo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaThe best any model of it ever did was the 4.0L turbo diesel. It got 58.8mpg which is pretty good. The diesel combined with almost no weight is what achieved it.

Whoops. I meant the lupo

BEHIND THE WHEEL/Volkswagen Lupo - A Thrifty Spin in a 99 M.P.G. Car - NYTimes.com

 

[ahole-ic]

Whoops. I meant the lupo
BEHIND THE WHEEL/Volkswagen Lupo - A Thrifty Spin in a 99 M.P.G. Car - NYTimes.com

From your link

"To get 99 m.p.g., VW made the Lupo light. In the 3 Liter, VW engineers used aluminum and magnesium wherever possible, including in the hood. They reduced the power drawn by accessories. There is no power steering. The windows must be cranked, and the mirrors must be adjusted by hand. The Lupo does, however, offer air-conditioning, and unlike the power-robbing units on small cars like the old Chevy Metro, once the star of Florida rental fleets, the Lupo's system does not offer a stark choice between acceleration and refrigeration.

VW also honed the aerodynamics of the round-face vehicle. But the Lupo hit the three-liter mark primarily by using a diesel -- and not a rugged, old-fashioned, sooty diesel, but a newer turbocharged direct-injection diesel with a computer chip to regulate its breathing.

The Lupo 3 Liter is available across Europe, where a third of all new cars -- and well over half all luxury cars -- are diesels. The owner's manual offers service addresses from Manchester to Minsk.

Hitting the three-liter average while meeting emissions standards depends on using low-sulfur diesel. The test car came already filled, with warnings not to add American diesel, which has a higher sulfur content -- up to 300 parts per million, compared with European standards that range as low as 10 parts per million -- and therefore produces higher sulfur dioxide emissions. VW would like to see all the sulfur removed from diesel -- Sweden sells fuel as low as 10 parts per million -- but it tunes the TDI's sold in the United States to the fuel here."

So, it's super light. Uses a special diesel with special fuel, and is "more aerodynamic" not to be mistaken for very aerodynamic.

So, it's tiny, unsafe, expensive to operate, and hideous.