You asked why Hispl thinks the lights don't measure clipping...What does that have to do with my post?
If you have any knowledge as to whether clip lights actually work accurately, we'd all love to hear it. Otherwise, thanks for the irrelevant, unsolicited info?You asked why Hispl thinks the lights don't measure clipping...
I was just supplying information to discuss your question.
Matt
If you have any knowledge as to whether clip lights actually work accurately, we'd all love to hear it. Otherwise, thanks for the irrelevant, unsolicited info?
A conversation I had with Stephen Mantz some years ago when he added that feature to his amps.@hispls what makes you think these things don't actually detect clipping?
This was the gist of what Stephen had told me about his amps.clip light always comes on before actual clipping at the terminals.
Am I missing something?
That sure seemed like relevant and solicited information regarding how clip lights can't monitor actual clipping???
Assuming the clip light is measuring voltage, it's not going to be displaying true clipping, just high output of your amp.
Or am I misunderstanding?
A conversation I had with Stephen Mantz some years ago when he added that feature to his amps.
This was the gist of what Stephen had told me about his amps.
Again, if we're talking the amp (usually) has another roughly 15% power to deliver when that light comes up the difference in output will be inaudible trying to push it beyond that will almost always put you into hard clip particularly when 1 click of the volume knob on even a 1-60 source unit will be trying to get another 30% out of the amp. They're certainly good enough for the vast majority of users.
If you're listening to music with your ears set gains with your ears, if you're "listening" to tones in the lanes you should set gains with a Termlab. Nobody listens to music with an osciliscope.
If someone like Stephen isn't doing so, I can't imagine any of these far east buildhouses are, particularly as something simple would be just as effective for practical applications. This sort of thing only needs to be the digital equivalent of the old needle that jumps up to the right and when it's in the red you know you're nearing the limit of output your equipment can produce... except you only see the red bit and it's just an LED instead of a mechanical needle.I'm sure some amps have a proper clip light.
If someone like Stephen isn't doing so, I can't imagine any of these far east buildhouses are, particularly as something simple would be just as effective for practical applications. This sort of thing only needs to be the digital equivalent of the old needle that jumps up to the right and when it's in the red you know you're nearing the limit of output your equipment can produce... except you only see the red bit and it's just an LED instead of a mechanical needle.
Which is, again the digital equivalent of the old needle display (which even some Audiobahn amps had on them in the past).the "display" on the smart 3 is pretty accurate
Which is, again the digital equivalent of the old needle display (which even some Audiobahn amps had on them in the past).
Consider also, what use is a light that only comes on when you're already in trouble? How do you know where to gain? If your light never flickers how do you know you aren't leaving some headroom on the table and if your light comes on you're instantly in trouble. I'd say just some simple voltage/current detection is the most simple and useful for the purpose of showing the user when his amp is running at its limits.
Says the dipshit who owns an oscilloscope but prefers to poll the internet about his equipment.Thanks for your advice. Not sure why that other dude needed to comment when the only thing coming from him was his douchey, pointless opinions.
Says the dipshit who owns an oscilloscope but prefers to poll the internet about his equipment.
I tested my light and can confirm it is accurate. I haven't seen anyone else say they actually tested their light, but at least everyone else is nice while they speculate for you!