Before I start dropping hundos

[alwaysat8k]

Before I start dropping more money, I purchased two idmax 10s. I have them hooked up to a MMatts 2000.05d. These speakers produce beautiful music. However, they are not as loud as I expected.

I'm looking for a super durable sub for my amp. Either 12 or 15. I have an access cab truck. I want the subwoofer to last while producing something reasonable at 2000w.

Cheaper is better as always, but I'm unsure what to run? I'm thinking SSA Xcon or sundown z4. It's extremely difficult for me to listen to any of these brands because all the audio stores near me only have the bestbuy brands. Everyone hyped up the idmaxes to be SQL.. Although I find them to be completely SQ orientated subs. I loved my diamond m6 15" back in 2006. It was loud and had awesome SQ and would take 3-400 more than rated all day long. Since, their lineup has changed and I wasn't impressed with the 15 I purchased and then traded two years ago.

With all this in mind, am I looking at the right brands? Are these speakers as hyped up as they should be?

Thanks for any help. I guess I'm picky..

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[shauncox26]

both are highend sql subs. cant go wrong with either. really depends on budget and build time on sub. if u can wait on either to be built. they are both amazing subs.

 

[alwaysat8k]

Will they handle 2000w rms?

 

[shauncox26]

i know the z4 will for sure and @denim ; can chime in on the xcon as i cant remember the ratings on it. but im sure with a clean signal the xcon will do just fine aswell.

 

[alwaysat8k]

Thanks. I might call ssa tomorrow and talk to them. I want to make sure I make the right purchase this time. I'm hoping I can sell these idmaxs. They are great subs I just want something louder.

 

[shauncox26]

glad i could help! let us know how u like them.

 

[winkychevelle 10+ year member]

Wh ast kinda box is the 2 idmaxes In ive never had a problem getting them decently loud.

 

[Tbsh 10+ year member]

The Xcon is rated at 1750, I have one and it eats up everything my dc2k put outs.

 

[will3 10+ year member]

I would recommend looking into your current setup and enclosure before jumping ship, a pair of 10" idmax's should hang with most single 12 or 15" setups on 2k all things equal

 

[garychoffmann 10+ year member]

What box do you have the idmax in?

 

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

ID does make a good product and I'd also think you're more likely to get what you want by throwing your money at a better box.

 

[alwaysat8k]

Heres my set up:

MMatts 2000.05d

running sealed chambers in 3/4 mdf.

1.25cf each chamber.

subs move crazy at 2/3 gain.. i keep the frequency at the lowest setting on the amp and at 80hz lpf on the deck.. theres no subsonic filter on my amp

alpine deck

1/0 wiring all the way through to amp.

12g from amp to box.

180amp singer alt (biggest they make for my truck).

big 3.

agm battery.

box is also double baffled and flush mounted. i dont get it man? ive tried running them in reverse phase.. everything.. facing the subs up, down, forward. i cant figure it out? i can see the subs surrounds stretching and they just arent that loud. the response is outstanding, but the loudness is off par. I dont want to fry them. they are getting pushed to hell. my american bass tnt10's on a ph2500amp were louder?

 

[blazian87 10+ year member]

drop the idmax's in a custom ported box and it should be plenty of bass... enclosure will play the biggest part in how your system will sound. You will need to sacrifice more space for the box.. like a 3.0-4.0 cu ft box.. roughly 1.5-2.0 per sub.. tune it in the low 30s for SQ.. I've heard plenty of idmax's and they are pretty loud.. with only 1000w too.. but i've only heard them in ported boxes so that's probably why..

also, try putting the crossover a little higher as you might of put it too low.. start with 80 hz.. make sure your gains are set correctly.. 3/4 gain might be too much depending on the amp.. Get a SMD DD-1 to do it right.

 

[alwaysat8k]

image dynamics recommended not running them in ported.. they said they will not handle the 1000w in a ported enclosure?

 

[blazian87 10+ year member]

yea you don't needa run the full 1000w when ported.. idmax's do well with less power too.. I have a feeling you're overworking the subs

I've never seen anywhere where image dynamics doesn't recommend ported.. their spec sheet even says you can run it ported..

http://www.imagedynamicsusa.net/files/70537920.pdf