American Muscle or Japanese Tuner?

[Trey803 5,000+ posts]

8 second 1/4 mile with wheelie. I dont care what some euro deusch has to say about them

 

[Orion Man 10+ year member]

Take the sport of drifting for example
sure it is cool to watch this burn rubber

But seeing this is a hell of a lot cooler

Those Cobra Mustangs are just bad! The Shelby Super Snake really gets me going.

 

[blazeplacid 10+ year member]

yes but that truck has mods

you can mod anything to be fast

even an aveo can be fast

 

[Pyro_By_Nature 5,000+ posts]

I think it's funny how all these people say "well xxxxx car can keep up with half the engine". What they neglect to mention is most of the time it requires a turbo running 15+ PSI.

What happens once you build a 8 cylinder up and then add on forced induction of some kind? It slaughters these cars that without turbos would still just be another slow 4cyl. That song comes to mind "anything you can do I can do better" //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif

*waits for the tuner fanboys to bring up the infamous "well in the canyons" argument*

Muscle ftw.

 

[SPLV 10+ year member]

I think it's funny how all these people say "well xxxxx car can keep up with half the engine". What they neglect to mention is most of the time it requires a turbo running 15+ PSI.
What happens once you build a 8 cylinder up and then add on forced induction of some kind? It slaughters these cars that without turbos would still just be another slow 4cyl. That song comes to mind "anything you can do I can do better" //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif

*waits for the tuner fanboys to bring up the infamous "well in the canyons" argument*

Muscle ftw.

Last I heard, a 2.0L Acura RSX type S is NOT turbocharged and can keep up with a 90s Camaro Z28. Less than half the engine. Oh snap!

 

[Shinju 10+ year member]

Grand National T Type 1985, I owned one but it wasnt as clean as this!

1987 Shelby CSX, I owned 175 out of 750. I bought this from my friends father who was a professional SCCA Show room stock race car driver aside from being a fulltime lawer.

I loved watching ricers QQ when they lost to a dodge shadow, This car was probably one of the best handling cars I have ever driven it was glued to the road.

Unfortunatly I sold the car I regret it some day I'll get another //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif And the one shown is not mine I borrowed the photo. Mine had SCCA stickers and all kind of Sponcers decals aswell.

Shelby's last offering for 87 would be the CSX. It was based on the then-new Dodge Shadow ES Turbo. As usual, Carroll took it from there.

In the engine bay was yet another Turbo II which had been converted from a Turbo I at Shelby's plant (seen below). This engine was identical to that in the Shelby GLHS cars and it produced the same 175 hp and 175 lb-ft of torque. As installed in the CSX it returned performace of 0-60 in 7.0 seconds, ET of 15.4 seconds, and a top speed of 131 mph.

I like rare and unusual fast cars Imports or Domestic. Things that you wouldnt really expect to have some balls.

 

[slim8605 10+ year member]

It shouldn't matter if the are turbo or not as long as both cars being compared are stock. I would love for someone to show me a modern American v8 car with around 300hp keep up with an sti/evo/350z. If you can do it I will post pics my ***.

Edit: LOVE GNs

 

[Grinder1989 5,000+ posts]

It shouldn't matter if the are turbo or not as long as both cars being compared are stock. I would love for someone to show me a modern American v8 car with around 300hp keep up with an sti/evo/350z. If you can do it I will post pics my ***.
Edit: LOVE GNs

Are you just referring to 0-60 times and quarter mile times when you say "that can keep up with sti/evo/350z?" As far as that goes that's any car that can do 0-60 in 5 flat and a quarter around 13.6 seconds. A cobalt SS can run a 5.9 and a 13.9 quarter and its about 20 grand cheaper than a Sti and a Z and 10 grand cheaper that a evo. Modern muscle car it is not, but it's pretty quick for 24 grand. I can't think of an American car with 300 horsepower that can beat them however I can name a couple for around 40 grand that will keep up and or beat them. Shelby GT500, Pontiac G8 GXP, Ford Mustang Bullit, and Dodge Challenger SRT8. I wouldn't even need to spend 40 grand to get my piece of shit 74 Chevy C10 to smoke all three of the cars you listed in a straight line. Maybe instead of comparing power output you should compare price. At least then you would have an accurate comparison and you might even look like you know what your talking about. Oh and if you need my sources for that information I've given, check the newest edition of Road and Track.

 

[slim8605 10+ year member]

Are you just referring to 0-60 times and quarter mile times when you say "that can keep up with sti/evo/350z?" As far as that goes that's any car that can do 0-60 in 5 flat and a quarter around 13.6 seconds. A cobalt SS can run a 5.9 and a 13.9 quarter and its about 20 grand cheaper than a Sti and a Z and 10 grand cheaper that a evo. Modern muscle car it is not, but it's pretty quick for 24 grand. I can't think of an American car with 300 horsepower that can beat them however I can name a couple for around 40 grand that will keep up and or beat them. Shelby GT500, Pontiac G8 GXP, Ford Mustang Bullit, and Dodge Challenger SRT8. I wouldn't even need to spend 40 grand to get my piece of shit 74 Chevy C10 to smoke all three of the cars you listed in a straight line. Maybe instead of comparing power output you should compare price. At least then you would have an accurate comparison and you might even look like you know what your talking about. Oh and if you need my sources for that information I've given, check the newest edition of Road and Track.

I understand where you are coming from but I asked for specific types of cars. I said modern American V8s with around 300hp. Yes I am mainly speaking of 0-60 time because the cars you listed are no where near "track" cars

Bullit - I'll give you that one since that is exactly what i asked for. It is not faster but can keep up.

GT500 - more power

G8 - more power

Challenger - more power

74 Chevy C10 - very modern

You named the cobalt ss which is not 20k less than any car I named. You can get the cars I named for around 30k. The new 370z starts at 29xxx, right? I remember when the new Evos came out, again, around 30k just like the STI. And the SS isn't a v8 so I don't know why you brought that one up. My whole point is that it doesn't take a big V8 to go fast. Thanks for helping me prove it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[tRiGgEr 5,000+ posts]

I'd take a 1967 GTO please //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[Grinder1989 5,000+ posts]

I understand where you are coming from but I asked for specific types of cars. I said modern American V8s with around 300hp. Yes I am mainly speaking of 0-60 time because the cars you listed are no where near "track" cars
Bullit - I'll give you that one since that is exactly what i asked for. It is not faster but can keep up.

GT500 - more power

G8 - more power

Challenger - more power

74 Chevy C10 - very modern

You named the cobalt ss which is not 20k less than any car I named. You can get the cars I named for around 30k. The new 370z starts at 29xxx, right? I remember when the new Evos came out, again, around 30k just like the STI. And the SS isn't a v8 so I don't know why you brought that one up. My whole point is that it doesn't take a big V8 to go fast. Thanks for helping me prove it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

I stand corrected on one thing and that's prices. The prices I listed were "as tested prices". However I never said you need to have a big v-8 to build power. That's not the case at all. However, to go fast, it involves much more than raw power. Keep in mind that the "there's no replacement for displacement" rule is involved and is the most important factor as far as power goes. Sure you can do a ton of work to a 4 cylinder and make it put out 600HP but put the same work to a V-8 and you will far exceed 600HP.

 

[gattaluvdatBASS 10+ year member]

1976 Chevy Chevelle 427SS would be my dream car

or ill take a 1979 or a 1976 Chevy Nova //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[grimreper912003 5,000+ posts]

No euro love? Dropped 98 BMW 740 with 18"s. Black with 5%, stick and a turbo //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[canemaster 10+ year member]

This

and this

and I'm a happy man

 

[koolwhipman 10+ year member]

Sure, rice rockets can be fast. But why do they have to be so annoyingly loud? Why can't they put an exhaust that sounds better on them? Something "respectable" instead of "rediculous"?Why do they have to have so many stickers?