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Wolves and cougars are two..

You also should spend a little less time hunting and more time learning to spell.

Moron.
You should spend less time being a b!tch and apply that time towards building stronger arguments. I can understand where you're coming from, but you miss the big picture. You call all hunters immoral rednecks but you support the less-humane slaughterhouses by purchasing packaged meat at the grocery store. That completely invalidates the nice essay you wrote in the original post. Before crying about teenagers hunting and eating animals again, visit a slaughterhouse.

I'll have to agree with ice on the issue of hunting for fun versus hunting for a sport. Most of the hunters I knew in Mississippi would eat everything they killed - duck, deer, dove, turkey, etc. I did unfortunately know some that hunted for "fun" but we all knew they were trying to compensate for other areas in which they were lacking.

 
Lol at this thread...I joined about 5 minutes ago just to reply to this thread. The thread OP obviously just wanted to spark a big debate, and is obviously a hypocrite. Ok, so you are against the killing of animals yet you are not vegetarian? That makes a lot of sense...have you ever seen how they slaughter animals for meat? It's about 10x more brutal than anything you're talking about. So obviously you're just an idiot...you can't even present your stand on the subject right.

Oh yeah..."immoral rednecks?" Get in reality you dipshit, just because you hunt doesn't mean you're a redneck. And yes, I'm from the South...and proud of it.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 
I have 0 racks on my walls and i dont plan on having any any time soon. The deer i can harvest around here is nothing like what you will see on tv most are fork n horn... When i hunt i go for the experiance. Its like a natural form of therapy. I know none of the people against hunting have ever been hunting. Its not about getting out there and killing off our population of wild animals. If i wanted to i could harvest a animal every time i go out... I dont though, If i kill an animal i harvest the meat. I burry the pile of stuff that wouldnt be eaten and then take the animal to a processor where all the meat on the animal is used. I then donate a good 10-15 lbs of meat to a local homeless shelter where they create an entire meal out of it. Not only the ground front and breast either... all parts and cuts. I would then have quite a bit of jerky to eat on some ground meat and chops left over... Family and friends then help with the rest. The animal is not wasted at all and i am greatfull for the time and memories it gave me.

 
You should spend less time being a b!tch and apply that time towards building stronger arguments. I can understand where you're coming from, but you miss the big picture. You call all hunters immoral rednecks but you support the less-humane slaughterhouses by purchasing packaged meat at the grocery store. That completely invalidates the nice essay you wrote in the original post. Before crying about teenagers hunting and eating animals again, visit a slaughterhouse.
I'll have to agree with ice on the issue of hunting for fun versus hunting for a sport. Most of the hunters I knew in Mississippi would eat everything they killed - duck, deer, dove, turkey, etc. I did unfortunately know some that hunted for "fun" but we all knew they were trying to compensate for other areas in which they were lacking.
you don't need deer meat to survive so why do it? in the grand scheme of life, cattle pigs, chickens etc were predetermined to be our source of food. there is a reason for this. these animals can be contained in farms and raised for food. deer would be hard to raise on a farm for food, hence making these animals, perfect for our needs. they also supply us with milk and eggs, which are essential in making other foods, making these animals top choice in our food chain. deer hunting is recreation.

 
Because venison has no additives or antibiotics, it is an attractive alternative to commercially grown beef. What's more venison has a fraction of the fat found in beef.
Surprisingly, a 3½ ounce serving of ground beef has 40 percent more calories, 223 percent more fat and 125 percent more cholesterol than the same amount of venison.
Of course, ground beef normally contains a large amount of fat so perhaps a better comparison to venison might be lean ground beef. However, even then, venison is far more healthy. A 3½ ounce portion of lean ground beef still has 31 percent more calories, 189 percent more fat, and 118 percent more cholesterol than an equal amount of venison.
Turkey and chicken have fewer calories and fat than venison, but venison has less cholesterol than both white meats.
The medical industry has been looking at the benefits of venison because many people cannot digest beef. Numerous physicians and nutritional experts believe venison can greatly help and sometimes reverse chronic conditions like food allergies, sporadic diarrhea and other digestive disorders.
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Most hunters do it for the sport and the meat and the memories, when i killed my first dear when i was 5 i will never forget it it was one of my first real good memories. and to this day i still say that there is no drug that better than wathching a big 12 point walk out on you. And i still say its better than ***

 
No if there was no development that is what would happen but do to the massive growth of the lowcountry we have outsourced the food and they can not move quick enough and its just as easy to raise deer and cattle and chickens my aunt and uncle have a tyson chicken farm and have deer and cattle. And as i have said before, deer is about 5 times as healthy as cattle.

 
No if there was no development that is what would happen but do to the massive growth of the lowcountry we have outsourced the food and they can not move quick enough and its just as easy to raise deer and cattle and chickens my aunt and uncle have a tyson chicken farm and have deer and cattle. And as i have said before, deer is about 5 times as healthy as cattle.
so we go from deer dying off from disease, to being healthier then cattle? i've eaten meat my whole life, and i'm not afraid of dying anytime soon.

 
Most hunters do it for the sport and the meat and the memories, when i killed my first dear when i was 5 i will never forget it it was one of my first real good memories. and to this day i still say that there is no drug that better than wathching a big 12 point walk out on you. And i still say its better than ***
you really need to experience the warmth and comfort of an orgasming ******

 
Trust me I have but theres just something about working your *** off all summer and then watching a big buck walk out that would have been a tiny little thing without your effort. And they would get diseased because of all of them dieing.

 
Trust me I have but theres just something about working your *** off all summer and then watching a big buck walk out that would have been a tiny little thing without your effort. And they would get diseased because of all of them dieing.
so you feed and raise deer just to slaughter them? the same thing that makes me a hypocrite? in other words you lead the deer in believing it's safe, only to come back and murder it?

 
Hunters are killers, plain and simple. Let us not mince words. Hunters try to justify their violent pastime, but whatever they say to the contrary, hunting is the premeditated, cold-blooded killing of innocent animals.
The object of the hunt is to kill animals. Hunters argue that it is not just about killing. They claim that the camaraderie, nature appreciation, exercise, nature education, and so-called conservation benefits are just as important a part of the hunt as the actual killing or attempted killing of the target animal.

But most people can appreciate and learn about nature and also contribute to nature conservation efforts without having to kill animals, and by doing their shooting with a camera instead of a gun or bow.

It is ludicrous to believe that someone who actively sets out to kill a healthy animal for fun, trophy or profit really cares about wild animals specifically or nature in general. Photographs of smiling hunters posing with their dead victims hardly reflect the kind of “caring” that most normal people relate to. If hunters are the “true” conservationists they claim to be, and really do care about animals, they would pursue every humane, non-lethal possibility or means of caring for wild animals and the environment. Instead, their solution to any perceived problem with animals is to reach for the gun. Why is it that hunters, as so-called conservationists, are interested only in those animals that are most attractive as trophies, most enjoyable to eat or most “challenging” to hunt?

Hunting is wrong because for no good reason it violates the most basic right of any living creature – the right to life. According to hunters, they only shoot animals who are surplus or excessive to the carrying capacity of the land or who are old or injured . They claim that their killing is done for humane and practical reasons, and that an untimely death by bullet or arrow is preferable to death from natural causes.

All of this presumes that animals who are killed or wounded by human hunters, endure less fear, stress and pain than those animals dying from natural causes, including predation.

It is a fact that hunters kill for the pleasure, the satisfaction and the boost it gives their fragile egos. This makes killing seem like an honorable pastime that others should strive to emulate. It relegates animals to the status of utility items that exist to pleasure humans, and if that pleasure lies in the killing of an animal, then so be it.

Hunting simply perpetuates the ethically indefensible conception that animals exist for humans. And nothing more emphatically emphasises this misconception than when humans deliberately track down a wild animal and kill it for fun, trophy or profit. This shows an absolute disregard by hunters for the right of wild animals to live out their lives as nature intended, in circumstances which allow them to enjoy the diverse experiences of living in their natural environment. And for as long as hunters are allowed to conduct their bloody war on innocent wild animals with the sanction of civil society, then every human in that society shares in the guilt of the wrongdoing.

Considering the weapons used by hunters today, it is an understatement to say that a targeted animal has little or no chance of avoiding being killed or wounded. The distance from which a hunter can deliver a fatal shot far exceeds the distance from which a natural predator could successfully attack it’s intended prey. Wild animals have not yet evolved the instinct required to keep modern hunters at a “safe” distance.


Since the dawn of time Man has hunted to survive. From the Ice age hunters killing Mammoths, to the Eskimos hunting whale and walrus, to the Indians hunting buffalo, to the modern day hunter with white tail, turkey, and other game.

Hunting was used as a means to survive. Food, clothing, hunting tools, and all sorts of items were used from the carcass...Including money.

I do agree that hundreds of years ago up to or around the early to middle 20th century some animals fell to extension or close due to over hunting. The humpback whale, the buffalo, the white tail (yes they were also dieing out at one point in time), walrus, as well as many other animals.

Today hunting is not only still used as a means for food, but its also a sport, and animal population control. With out this control the animal and our own food supply would/could be at a major risk. These animals that were nearly wiped out by our hands are now full in number and watched close to ensure that they will be around for a long time. Our game and fish commission is doing an excellent job at preserving our animal population.

You may think what you want about inhumane or murder, but the fact is, we have been hunting since our creation. You can not argue against that.

I feel that any type of hunting is fine as long as one thing...the animal is used in food. Sport, fun, leisure, or any type, as long as the animal isnt simply discarded it is OK in my mind.

You say that we are killing innocent animals, but you see, we are the top of the food chain. We are and were created smarter then the deer, just as the lion was created with sharp teeth and claws to trap and kill its antelope prey. Our claws and teeth are guns and arrows. There is no difference.

I can go on with this if you wish to continue our conversation. I hope that since you have the ability to make threads that are your opinion and one sided, you have the intellect to sit and hear/read the other side.

 
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