what 32 12" subs?

[Imtjnotu 5,000+ posts]

why not do some phoenix golds?

 

[Chevyaudio 5,000+ posts]

Theres not much to think about lol. Honostly you will have a hellish time fitting 32 12's in an astro van ported. Look at the basic rules of a ported box vs sealed box.
Ported - Peaks at a frequency

Sealed- Has a good frequency response all around

Bass race - Your average

Ported - More room per sub

Sealed - Less room per sub

Astrovan - Very hard to get 32 ported 12" subs

Ported - Hard design to get right

Sealed - Idiot Proof

Ported - Bad things can happen if not designed properly like back pressure and such

Sealed - Nothing wrong with it as far as a simple design goes

Please kill yourself for the statement that I bolded.

You need a very stable song in bassrace something that doesnt jump around alot.

 

[Chevyaudio 5,000+ posts]

Chevy you dont want someone with no Bandpass experience spending thousands on 4 18's because if they get it off shit will be bad. Subs blowing up and all.

There are more than enough people over at Termpro that would help him out with a design.

 

[hoss 5,000+ posts]

i second the vote to leave them sealed...

with the diamond shape enclosure you are going to be building, it will technically act kind of like a 4th order bp box. you could port them just as easily, but i dont think you are going to gain many favorable results.

if you cant get loud with 32 12"s in ANY install, you arent going to get loud...

 

[hoss 5,000+ posts]

Of course you do Im not taking the songs into consideration because right now hes doing ported and if he plays the wrong song its gonna get ugly real quick. Shit he can hit a 160 on a few notes of a song but all of a sudden when those 32 12's start playing like 10 8's scores going downhill real fast.

thats why people who compete in bassrace usually pick their song out beforehand //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

and alot of them will find some weird stuff because they know where it peaks and when it peaks.

 

[Imtjnotu 5,000+ posts]

i second the vote to leave them sealed...
with the diamond shape enclosure you are going to be building, it will technically act kind of like a 4th order bp box. you could port them just as easily, but i dont think you are going to gain many favorable results.

if you cant get loud with 32 12"s in ANY install, you arent going to get loud...

still havent gotten the email foo:fro:

 

[Chevyaudio 5,000+ posts]

thats why people who compete in bassrace usually pick their song out beforehand //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif
and alot of them will find some weird stuff because they know where it peaks and when it peaks.

yup //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[hoss 5,000+ posts]

True im still basing all this off the fact the guy is sort jumping into this build and just trying to keep it as fool safe as possible.

if you know exactly where your install is going to peak before you build it, then you must be a genius //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

im fairly certain there isnt a single competitor out there that was able to find their song and exact freq peak prior to their build. alot of SPL installs take quite a bit of tuning to get them exactly where they want them. and just about anyone with a bit of carpentry knowledge can fit 2 tons of turd in a 1/2 ton van //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif (not knocking the install, just saying that if you know how to go about it, anyone can do it)

still havent gotten the email foo:fro:

id keep checking it, it had 4 pics, might take a while to travel across the interwebs. ill resend it in a bit if i need to //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

yup //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

yup //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[hoss 5,000+ posts]

lol I see what your saying and I agree completely. Id still rather do sealed //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

believe me, im on your side with that one too //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

after sitting in the team ho problems truck with iirc half the amount of woofers this guy is going to be using... and i was in the truck while the windhsield smashed itself apart at SBN a few years ago (im in the vid on ROE //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif )... like i said, if you cant get this van loud sealed, you arent going to be loud...

 

[80INCHES 5,000+ posts]

I highly doubt you could make a decent ported design with 32 12s. It would be better off to run a sealed wall.

i agree 32 subs is loud and should beat out most ported or bandpass setups based on sheer cone area.

80

 

[phantom240 5,000+ posts]

Get some street edge 12's. We sell em at the shop i work at for $50. Good subs for the money. lol.

 

[jdawg 5,000+ posts]

Thats just alot of ******* subs. Anyone remember the Boss Cannon from a long time ago? It was a crew cab dually Chevy. Had like 40 12's or something like that.

 

[Ku-sama]

I'd be more impressed by 10 18" FI BTLs //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[jmanjr]

He is obviously going with the cone area theory! I just dont think 32 is going to work proper though, I think you would be just as loud with 20 12s, at a point you will notice cancellation becomes a huge factor!

 

[jdawg 5,000+ posts]

He is obviously going with the cone area theory! I just dont think 32 is going to work proper though, I think you would be just as loud with 20 12s, at a point you will notice cancellation becomes a huge factor!

This is true. I would suggest like you said with seperate boxes. Some competitors have noticed actually taking out some subs but using the same power is louder than just many many subs. Its something you have to play with