US Amps AX3200DE vs Sundown 3000D

[Gearstix 10+ year member]

Right - and he has nothing to lose bashing a product.
People can get on their computer and make comments that may hurt my business with no negative consequences - so YES, I have something to gain by defending my product.

You are right, stuff like this can hurt your business.

I haven't owned either of the amps in this topic but I will probably be in the market for a pair of 3000W @ 1 ohm amp sometime in the new year.

Stuff like this makes me question which amp I had in mind.

I was planning on purchasing some SAZ-3000Ds, from dB-r.

I dunno. Amp build quality and stuff is a big factor in picking an amp, but I also like customer service and support. How many places can you talk to Kickers owner online, or JLs? I haven't seen it yet. I like how you can talk direct with Jacob, the 'less mainstream' companies I've found to be like this. I bought my subs from Mach5 Audio, and any questions I had about them I asked Mach 5's owners... I had some questions about the 1500Ds and 3000Ds, pm'd Jacob, he answered them no problem.

I'm not trying to badmouth US amps as I've never owned one, I'm not saying that they don't have customer support, I just figured I'd chime in and post this.

 

[Here2Learn 10+ year member]

this is the only video I could find of a US Amps comparison test...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI&feature=PlayList&p=1275214E7A8F434B&playnext=1&index=39

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

this is the only video I could find of a US Amps comparison test...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI&feature=PlayList&p=1275214E7A8F434B&playnext=1&index=39

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[dB-r 10+ year member]

For anyone who is wanting to get back on topic, or at least close too, I can say this:

US Amps, Sundown Audio, Digital Designs, is ALL kick *** gear and you cannot go wrong with your pick of any one of these. I HATE working on the US Amps stuff, like working on the Sundown and DD stuff, but the US Amps stuff is good too, I just don't like working on it, the way it's made/designed/built is a pain in the *** to work on, that's it.

I don't hear many complaints on the SAZ-3000D. dB-r has sold a couple dozen of them this year and not had a single return, or complaint about any of them. Some of the buyers of the SAZ-3000D's had run DD or US Amps in the past, so what does that tell you? Not only where they trying something new, they liked it because we never heard any complaints, not from a single customer that purchased a SAZ-3000D.

 

[sundownz Pro Seller]

I agree that US Amps and DD make fine products - I am simply here standing up for my product, which I know to be of high quality.

 

[dB-r 10+ year member]

this is the only video I could find of a US Amps comparison test...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI&feature=PlayList&p=1275214E7A8F434B&playnext=1&index=39

HAHA LOL!

I, like everyone else, was shocked back in the day when I saw who was actually singing that song, couldn't believe it was a pasty red-head white boy singing like that....

GOOD ONE!

 

[sundownz Pro Seller]

I love my 8V eclipse decks....do you use them in your ride(s)?

In the SPL truck I owned for a while I had an 8v Eclipse deck but don't have any in my other vehicles at this time. Was a good deck for sure.

 

[dB-r 10+ year member]

Think of it this way people....

SAZ-3000D is > than a lot of other amps on the market that claim to be 3000 watt amps... should we start naming names? BOSS, Pyramid, power acoustik.... should I go on?

SAZ-3000D is a quality amp. And if you measure it like most people do, with an AC Voltmeter and an AC Clamp, you will happily see more than 3000 watts @ 1 ohm for your subs..... It will make your subs happy.

 

[captaincheesey 10+ year member]

this is the only video I could find of a US Amps comparison test...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI&feature=PlayList&p=1275214E7A8F434B&playnext=1&index=39

Good song, lol.

And I came in here and listened to this 06 fellow until jacob and db-r came in here to disprove him then brought up actual test results. In my opinion 06 dude is dead in the water with his claims which is why he is no longer in here. I mean I am in the market for 3k+ after christmas and the 3000D is def on my list of possible amps, as well as a Z1, Z1a, XXV Thor, XX Colossus, etc. So mr. "You're a nutthugger." STFU and GTFO.

 

[ssackett 10+ year member]

I have ran high power amps from DD, IA, Atomic & American Bass all being 3000+ watt amps and a US AMPS MD1 and MD2 and I have sold all of them and chosen to run Sundown. The quality of the product, Jacobs service, and his warranty program cant be matched in a flooded market of awesome gear right now. I'm sure a lot of people will say the same. There is nothing like knowing you have the support of the owner of the company. To me that's not called nut hugging its respect. I respect what Jacob has done and I am sure there will be a lot of other company's that will try to copy his business model. Not to many people bash on Sundown but when it does happy it seems like the person is such a douche about it?? I respect 06 opinion and I don't care to change his mind about his feelings but don't be a douche and make claims that can't be backed.

 

[dB-r 10+ year member]

Referring to 06salterego:

don't be a douche and make claims that can't be backed.

Exactly. Clipping tests are too hard to do accurately, and no SPL Boy with his Velleman Handscope can do it for sure. And I will say AGAIN his claim of 1.5dB gain by going from SAZ-3000D to DDZ1 has to be pure BS. Similar power output from both amps, no way "that much" gain is possible. Would have to almost double his power to see 1.5dB gain. Total and complete Bullshit.

 

[Here2Learn 10+ year member]

I have ran high power amps from DD, IA, Atomic & American Bass all being 3000+ watt amps and a US AMPS MD1 and MD2 and I have sold all of them and chosen to run Sundown. The quality of the product, Jacobs service, and his warranty program cant be matched in a flooded market of awesome gear right now. I'm sure a lot of people will say the same. There is nothing like knowing you have the support of the owner of the company. To me that's not called nut hugging its respect. I respect what Jacob has done and I am sure there will be a lot of other company's that will try to copy his business model. Not to many people bash on Sundown but when it does happy it seems like the person is such a douche about it?? I respect 06 opinion and I don't care to change his mind about his feelings but don't be a douche and make claims that can't be backed.

I happen to like the Sundown amps. The customer service is without a doubt THE BEST IN THE INDUSTRY....dude had an opinion, ppl jumped on his shit, I thought that was stupid, they jumped on my shit, now I FEEL STUPID CUZ DUDE HAULED AZZ with his lies..... i think I'll STFU and GTFO as recommended.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

 

[Iakona 10+ year member]

SUNDOWN FTW. I havent owned any, but have heard it and can vouch on sound quality and build quality

 

[ssackett 10+ year member]

I happen to like the Sundown amps. The customer service is without a doubt THE BEST IN THE INDUSTRY....dude had an opinion, ppl jumped on his shit, I thought that was stupid, they jumped on my shit, now I FEEL STUPID CUZ DUDE HAULED AZZ with his lies..... i think I'll STFU and GTFO as recommended.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

I think people jumped on him to a little to much. But he is making some unfounded claims which he has yet to back. I run Sundown and i'll be the first to say its not the strongest amp I have ran. So far though it has been one of the most reliable. Everyone has their opinions but it's just annoying to see someone make blind claims that would be interesting to see but probably will never be provided..

 

[dB-r 10+ year member]

I have destroyed things in my shop while load testing the Sundown amps.... they are beasts. Stuff falls off shelves, walls flex, doors move, it's fun to crank it up and watch all the shit start moving and flexing in my shop.... And my sub isn't even in a vented box yet.... Gonna be much louder when I do the new box, which should be VERY soon now since I will be closed up for christmas and new years, will have some free time....

As someone else had said in another post somewhere on here, Sundown amps are good for rattling body parts off your car....