how is it ignorant he just claimed himself he saw a hair over 3000 on a 12volt system, and the difference was 8 volt input, something most people dont have, so on a regualr system that hs a regualr pioneer or alpine deck with low voltage you unlikely to see 3000 watts unless you have a line driver and even at that itll be barely above, fluctating from amp to amp, he is rite and i am rite, how is that ignorant, your comment was ignorant.......