The do's and dont''s of my first wall....it seems like something isn't right....

[Lbetts818]

Lol good idea lbetts....i was thinking along the lines of some spiked faux fur. I'll update here in a few with a few pictures of my progress.

Just a tip. Try and block out a chunk of your day to work on the build but then also leave some time open for normal daily activities. For instance I'm dying to get my build done, but as a father of a 6yo lil girl and a husband I don't have a lot of spare time. So what I do is when I get out of work at 2 I work on my truck from 2:30ish to 4 when kiddo gets off the bus. Then after 4 I spend family time, help kid with home work or watch a movie with her etc...whatyour doing now is trying to do in two days what it takes some guys weeks to do. Just relax, enjoy the process and have fun. The rate your going now your going to burn your self out and hate it. And when your going at this rate your going to just make it ok to get playing and then wish you would've done more. Just have fun with it, enjoy the process and in the end will be very happy. And don't listen to the guy a few posts back. Yes there are certain woods that are better but no point dropping a ton of coin on it when your in the trial and error process. Also know you have three 18s but I'd build the box as big as you can and see where your at. It's better two let two breathe vs suffocating 3. You will be louder with two properly done than 3 shoehorned in there. Also make sure you have enough port are or you will be going back to the drawing board again. I've never built a wall but I would assume you want 14+ inches of port per cube. To figure that out take you port area (port hight times port width) and divide it by your total cubic feet. Also remember that the port in the box plus the subs and bracing will all take up some of that internal volume. So while you may have 20cubes now in the end after everything you may only have 15 or so. Just some stuff to take into consideration.

 

[ferguson621]

Absolutely lbetts! I completely understand what you mean. See the reason i want to try snd make three work is because the subs are rated for 2000rms so if i just run two i know with my luck I'll definitely end up frying the coils if i wire them to 1 ohm.....and i don't want to wire two of them to 4 ohms because i wouldn't even be using half the power my amp is capable of....but i do understand what you mean about 2 breathing and three suffocating....but i do have the cubic feet for three....i just have to figure out how to get all the angles right so i can make the box as big as i can.....i took and filled the top mounting hole with the wood i cut out and i fiberglassed over the front and back of it because I'm going to move it over to the left so ill have two on bottom and one on the left to the side and that way i can have a huge port on the drivers side like im supposed to.

@ the other guy talking shi t.....you can never have to many screws, I can build bad *** boxes all day long with more than enough pictures to prove it, because i build them and sell them on Craigslist. Ive just never built a wall.....everyone has to start somewhere. Let's see your first wall build.....and i actually like the critisism on my progress because it helps me learn how to make it better. You don't just know how to build a wall with never doing one before. And yeah my wall may look like **** and it might fall apart but atleast im taking the time and putting forth the effort to try to make one and i listen to people who actually want to help me and take time out of there day to post advice and tips for me. And honestly i could give a f uck less about how shi tty it looks just as long as it gets loud. If you dont want to help me then get the f uck outta my thread

 

[ChaseinBass]

The 'wall' you have is the problem. The ports look like they're barely hanging on...the build is sloppy, wrong wood, screws everywhere. What happened to taking pride in your work? This is so bad I would hesitate to even post pics of it...Hope I'm not hurting your feelings, but just wow...

Give him a break dude, he's a youngster ! Maybe you could give him some suggestions and not just tell him what you think he did wrong. Help build him up dont tear him down. I know its not the Ca.com way but jeez.

 

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Absolutely lbetts! I completely understand what you mean. See the reason i want to try snd make three work is because the subs are rated for 2000rms so if i just run two i know with my luck I'll definitely end up frying the coils if i wire them to 1 ohm.....and i don't want to wire two of them to 4 ohms because i wouldn't even be using half the power my amp is capable of....but i do understand what you mean about 2 breathing and three suffocating....but i do have the cubic feet for three....i just have to figure out how to get all the angles right so i can make the box as big as i can.....i took and filled the top mounting hole with the wood i cut out and i fiberglassed over the front and back of it because I'm going to move it over to the left so ill have two on bottom and one on the left to the side and that way i can have a huge port on the drivers side like im supposed to.
@ the other guy talking shi t.....you can never have to many screws, I can build bad *** boxes all day long with more than enough pictures to prove it, because i build them and sell them on Craigslist. Ive just never built a wall.....everyone has to start somewhere. Let's see your first wall build.....and i actually like the critisism on my progress because it helps me learn how to make it better. You don't just know how to build a wall with never doing one before. And yeah my wall may look like **** and it might fall apart but atleast im taking the time and putting forth the effort to try to make one and i listen to people who actually want to help me and take time out of there day to post advice and tips for me. And honestly i could give a f uck less about how shi tty it looks just as long as it gets loud. If you dont want to help me then get the f uck outta my thread

Wheres the updated pics Fergy ?

 

[ferguson621]

Lmao chaseinbass....one second and i will get a couple pictures for sure here shortly....gonna clean up a bit this time lol

 

[Buick_66]

Absolutely lbetts! I completely understand what you mean. See the reason i want to try snd make three work is because the subs are rated for 2000rms so if i just run two i know with my luck I'll definitely end up frying the coils if i wire them to 1 ohm.....and i don't want to wire two of them to 4 ohms because i wouldn't even be using half the power my amp is capable of....but i do understand what you mean about 2 breathing and three suffocating....but i do have the cubic feet for three....i just have to figure out how to get all the angles right so i can make the box as big as i can.....i took and filled the top mounting hole with the wood i cut out and i fiberglassed over the front and back of it because I'm going to move it over to the left so ill have two on bottom and one on the left to the side and that way i can have a huge port on the drivers side like im supposed to.
@ the other guy talking shi t.....you can never have to many screws, I can build bad *** boxes all day long with more than enough pictures to prove it, because i build them and sell them on Craigslist. Ive just never built a wall.....everyone has to start somewhere. Let's see your first wall build.....and i actually like the critisism on my progress because it helps me learn how to make it better. You don't just know how to build a wall with never doing one before. And yeah my wall may look like **** and it might fall apart but atleast im taking the time and putting forth the effort to try to make one and i listen to people who actually want to help me and take time out of there day to post advice and tips for me. And honestly i could give a f uck less about how shi tty it looks just as long as it gets loud. If you dont want to help me then get the f uck outta my thread

I stick with what I said. I would give advise, but I'm not sure how to make what you have into what you want without starting over. What I meant by wrong wood is all the 2x4's and 2x12's, and all the sheets you used are admittedly stuff you had on hand...start fresh, get material you want and need, not just throwing scraps together and adding screws. The more pieces you have glued and screwed the more gaps you have to fill, and the more vibrations you will have if you don't (which is one of the problems you are apparently having). Adding more wood will not help, and may create more issues. What I meant by having a million screws all over is that most people who install a wall would want to finish the front panel (and should, considering all the time and efforts pit forth to build it...) And considering in a wall scenario its the only surface to finish! So...more screws...more holes to fill to perfect a finish, whether paint/vinyl/even carpet/etc.

Sorry, but anyone who thinks you can just 'fix' what you have is just leading you down a long road to failure. IMO

 

[ferguson621]

Oh ok gotcha.....well i apologize for being a dic k.....i finally was able to get the right shape of my car. And i did a test fit and there's two little spots that i couldn't get cut right but its not a big deal....they're only like a quarter inch wide by 5 inches or so....nothing some expanding foam can't fix...i will post pictures after I'm done this time lol

 

[Lbetts818]

In the end of op gets it solid and it's doing what he wants what's it matter if he used what he had?? And with a wall the beauty panel will hide it all. While yes @ferguson621 your rushing and it's not award quality at least your learning. I'd rather see someone learn and mess up scraps than drop 500$ in wood and learn and mess up good stuff. This forum has gotten so negative lately. Why not get back the the fun of the hobby and help each other with positive stuff instead of bashing the **** out of someone. This is a shared passion or else no one would be here. This place is just a feeding ground for keyboard warriors. @Buick_66 any pics of your builds to show why you feel the need to bash the guy in your original post?? For real though why not try and help the guy vs put him down? Obviously this is taking a mental toll on him and the fellow basshead could use some friendly support. Sorry for the long post but in this nasty world we live in we could use a little more posativity. Pics Ferguson of progress being made? I'm not even close as skilled as some of the guys here but will give some positive advice if I'm able to in a beneficial way. Just take your time man and focus on details and it will get there.

 

[Lbetts818]

Sorry @Buick_66, read your post better and agree there a much better way to do it. And fergy scrapped the 2x4s and is learning has he goes. But a guy here did a box in a chevy truck with 2x4s and turned out nice.

 

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

But a guy here did a box in a chevy truck with 2x4s and turned out nice.

That was Alex.... turned out so "nice" that he was tearing it down 2 weeks later.... same story, young guy, wouldn't take advice, dead set on cramming too much cone area and rushing/half-arseing things.

 

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

I was cramming cone area as well... sacrificed extra layers to get enough airspace and port area and turned out well. Just gotta brace properly. Also used pine ply for extra weight savings. If i was overlly worried about doing 4 or 6 layers I wouldnt have had 20 cubes rear and 40 cubes front chamber... Would have had much MUCH less. like 15 cubes less.

 

[Lbetts818]

That was Alex.... turned out so "nice" that he was tearing it down 2 weeks later.... same story, young guy, wouldn't take advice, dead set on cramming too much cone area and rushing/half-arseing things.

My bad. Didn't realize he gutted it so quick. And that's what I'm trying to tell op is slow down and enjoy it and do it right and in the end he will be much happier. And I 1000% agree that less is more. I'd rather give my subs a little extra room to breathe than not enough. I like big boxes tuned ridiculously low though. My current box for two x15s with spl cones is 9.5 after displacements tuned to 32 with a 10" aero and I feel like that's tuned to high for me. I like to play 25-40 with authority and willing to sacrifice higher notes, I listen to a lot of chopped and screwed stuff and so Called "demo" music, git160s decaf and such. You guys here are awesome and if I was learning all over wouldn't second guess most of the advise as long as it doesn't end with

John kuthe!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Buick_66]

I'm not looking to bash or make enemies guys. I apologise if I was too harsh. I wish you luck. I am trying to load pics but apparently have to use my computer and resize, can't just upload from my phone.

Someone else said it...TAKE YOUR TIME!

I've spent ALL WINTER working on a project and I won't be hitting any shows this summer because I'm still working on it. Sure, practice and learn and build, but take time, take pride.

Pride sounds better!

 

[Buick_66]

I'm not looking to bash or make enemies guys. I apologise if I was too harsh. I wish you luck. I am trying to load pics but apparently have to use my computer and resize, can't just upload from my phone.

Someone else said it...TAKE YOUR TIME!

I've spent ALL WINTER working on a project and I won't be hitting any shows this summer because I'm still working on it. Sure, practice and learn and build, but take time, take pride.

Pride sounds better!

 

[ferguson621]

Hahahaha lbetts....I'm with you on that refering to john kuthe...the only reason I'm trying to fit all three is because i know i have the cubic feet to run all three....and because i spent so much on them....well $1000 is alot to me....i know for some of you it's like buying a burger at McDonalds. And i haven't even got to really listen to them either. And i do take advice hence why I've tore it down three times already and redid it.....I'm going outside now, it started raining earlier so i couldn't get any pictures. But i will take some now since it finally quit.

 

[Lbetts818]

Hahahaha lbetts....I'm with you on that refering to john kuthe...the only reason I'm trying to fit all three is because i know i have the cubic feet to run all three....and because i spent so much on them....well $1000 is alot to me....i know for some of you it's like buying a burger at McDonalds. And i haven't even got to really listen to them either. And i do take advice hence why I've tore it down three times already and redid it.....I'm going outside now, it started raining earlier so i couldn't get any pictures. But i will take some now since it finally quit.

A grand is a lot to about 95% of us here. But most of these guys you see running monster systems didn't just go out and drop 10k$ on them in one shot. Just upgrade after upgrade. And wasn't meaning you don't take advice at all. Meant that you have a ton of awesome resources here. But like I said before, take your time and enjoy the process and you'll be beating in no time. That and like Buick said, at the end of the day being able to take pride in it is a reward it's self. When you give a demo and someone says your truck looks sweet wouldn't it be awesome to tell them you did it yourself? And if anywhere your stuck just ask. These guys can help you out. And if you feel overwhelmed or frustrated just walk away for a bit. My little brother is kinda a basshead also and I find it easier to work on my truck if he's over for the day vs doing it solo just for the fact to have someone to talk to while doing it. That or get nice and chilled and throw on some headphones and go to work. You'll get there though =) just don't let it get the better of you. We still have a month or two before summer is here fully and that's when I really get the itch to have my stuff going. That and your walking your truck, that's a marriage that will 100% end in a messy divorce if you don't like it so make sure you take your time and doing it right the first time. It's not like a normal box that you can just pull out and rebuild.