T3 Coming out with new Sub??

[na_rsx 10+ year member]

^ can i have some popcorn?

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

No, not true at all.
A compression driver uses compression to achieve high efficiency or high SPL.

The radiating surface or cone is much larger than the opening through which the sound radiates. This corrects the loading difference between the vibrating cone and the air in front of it.

Think of a tornado horn without the horn.

What is not true at all? You are being so vague I dont even understand your point anymore.
I know how compression drivers work. I also know you are deviating way off topic.

Our discussion revolved around your 20kw comment. I mentioned that 20kw is over 25 horsepower, and that I find it impossible to believe the speaker requires 25hp worth of force to even start moving. I further concluded that you are either exaggerating, mistaken, or T3 has a real turd on their hands.

Your reply to my comments?... 'Ever see how a compression driver works'. Now you want to school me on the compression chamber and theory behind hlcd's? Unless you are telling us that these new T3 subs will have a compression chamber and will be horn loaded (which we both know they wont), hlcd's really aren't relevant to anything here other than you appearing to change the topic of what we are discussing.

Or, can you explain how compression drivers require huge amounts of power just to get them to move, at all, to support your parallel? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif Come on Ed, stay on topic.

 

[snoopdan 5,000+ posts]

burn. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/popcorn.gif.32dd9e22fd77e77bc3c907062768fcd2.gif

 

[Ed Lester 10+ year member]

What is not true at all? You are being so vague I dont even understand your point anymore.
I know how compression drivers work. I also know you are deviating way off topic.

Our discussion revolved around your 20kw comment. I mentioned that 20kw is over 25 horsepower, and that I find it impossible to believe the speaker requires 25hp worth of force to even start moving. I further concluded that you are either exaggerating, mistaken, or T3 has a real turd on their hands.

Your reply to my comments?... 'Ever see how a compression driver works'. Now you want to school me on the compression chamber and theory behind hlcd's? Unless you are telling us that these new T3 subs will have a compression chamber and will be horn loaded (which we both know they wont), hlcd's really aren't relevant to anything here other than you appearing to change the topic of what we are discussing.

Or, can you explain how compression drivers require huge amounts of power just to get them to move, at all, to support your parallel? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif Come on Ed, stay on topic.

Excuse me, you are the one going off topic bringing mechanical motor driven sirens into the post in your little description of what you think a compression driver is. Now keep up Poncho because I am not going to explain this 100 times until you get it.

A compression driver works by using an apparatus to compress the air that is being excited from a vibrating diaphram, in this case a woofer cone.

Now, this usually only works well in the higher frequency range, but the navy has been using something like this in sonar systems for years.

But the normal long excursion of a common subwoofer does not work, you need the cone to remain stiff and basically just vibrate at a low frequency, 50-80hz in this case. So using a 5" coil and an incredibly stiff suspension, you control the movement of the cone. The suspension is so stiff that you can jump on it and it wouldnt move. Because as you said, 20K can equate to about 25 hp of force, so it would take 25 horses to push on the cone to make it move.

The vibration at this power level is just about what you need to create the proper air compression and correct the mismatch of air impedance from the cone to the outside air.

Now its burp only, because playing transients would create horrible electrical impedance drops and would blow an amplifier.

 

[Upzaw2000]

pass the popcorn

 

[snoopdan 5,000+ posts]

pass the popcorn

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shit's gettn' deep in here //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/uhoh.gif.c07307dd22ee7e63e22fc8e9c614d1fd.gif

 

[Upzaw2000]

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shit's gettn' deep in here //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/uhoh.gif.c07307dd22ee7e63e22fc8e9c614d1fd.gif

ya i just hope i am not hit in the crossfire //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/hitbybrick.gif.68a672fae224041f00769a97c2c1bf2d.gif

thnaks for the popcorn

 

[snoopdan 5,000+ posts]

All we need now in here is demuth himself and then this thread will deliver.

 

[Upzaw2000]

i just went back and read this thrad, i have to say, itz very close to delivering! it just keeps getting better

 

[Ed Lester 10+ year member]

No need for popcorn because I am not coming back to this thread. Instead I am gonna use my computer for what it was designed for and thats to download ****.

 

[snoopdan 5,000+ posts]

No need for popcorn because I am not coming back to this thread. Instead I am gonna use my computer for what it was designed for and thats to download ****.

I have to admit, you're probably right //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[RE_XXX]

What I am getting from this is that the subwoofers will be built perfectly to the designers need.

Example:

The users enclosure is built for massive subs and massive power with a tuning of ** hz number. So the sub will be built to provide the perfect ** hz level compression while using the compression theory. So the subs cone will verberate at that perfect ** hz level while being able to maintain a high efficiency with high power. But being played with anything else will cause either compression problems, or a lack of efficiency hence a lack of overall SPL.

 

[snoopdan 5,000+ posts]

What I am getting from this is that the subwoofers will be built perfectly to the designers need.
Example:

The users enclosure is built for massive subs and massive power with a tuning of ** hz number. So the sub will be built to provide the perfect ** hz level compression while using the compression theory. So the subs cone will verberate at that perfect ** hz level while being able to maintain a high efficiency with high power. But being played with anything else will cause either compression problems, or a lack of efficiency hence a lack of overall SPL.

....and might be considered a tone generator by some organizations.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Excuse me, you are the one going off topic bringing mechanical motor driven sirens into the post in your little description of what you think a compression driver is. Now keep up Poncho because I am not going to explain this 100 times until you get it.

Who brought compression drivers into this discussion, me? You did. Who mentioned monster truck engines, me? You did. Who mentioned sirens, me? Nobody. If you are going to be a smart ***, at least make some sense.

Because as you said, 20K can equate to about 25 hp of force, so it would take 25 horses to push on the cone to make it move.

Im sorry, but after reading that, Im gonna take any technical info you give with one huge grain of salt.

 

[80INCHES 5,000+ posts]

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I am gonna use my computer for what it was designed for and thats to download ****.

i totally agree with u.....i think **** is for the serious win....

ed that sentance is sig worthy

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