Sundown Vs Orion, everyone else

[morales3592]

What is everyones opinion on the matter? Im looking to get either a sundown audio x10 or 12 or a Orion hcca 10 or 12. The magnet on the x rev 2 series is 660 oz on either size and the hcca is 264 on 10 and 445 oz on 12. Im looking to put two audio pipe apcl 1800s on either sub. i figured audio pipe doesn't do rated so it should be ok. I had a hdc3 10 and it blew quick on the 1800apcl. Any other sub recommendation around the same price range (450) is welcomed. Thanks everyone

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[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

audiopipes dont make rated power, you blew it through clipping at a point where you "thought" was audiopipe's rated power but was actually clipped to hell power. I had a banda 7k going to a pair of HDC3s

 

[mastershake575 10+ year member]

Of the two sundown (it's not even close ).

For your budget you can afford a good USA sub like the ssa icon/xcon, dss ethos, or fi bl (all of those subs have USA voice coil, motor machined in house, and fully assembled here which means near perfect quality control ).

 

[tymoto21 10+ year member]

I would do the HCCA over the X

But either will do very well and sound great on that power

I love my X's but the older gray HCCA I had was a beast and took a solid 3k

The HCCAs take much more power to get moving though

Mine didn't really come alive with the 1k I had on it as a temp amp

Also was a large box for a 15"

Also I agree you clipped your hdc3 to death

I've seen copper hdc3's take 2k all day and aluminums take 4k

 

[Massive spl]

X v2 all day. It's pretty much a zv4 v1... Beast and you can get nsv3 coils in the X v2 //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/yumyum.gif.0556df42231b304b9c995aefd13928a8.gif

 

[tymoto21 10+ year member]

maybe i only choose the HCCA because of nostalgia //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/nerd.gif.c6fa51ddf7ff75f1c0371fbc648f70ae.gif

but the HCCA is a very capable woofer



for how good all of the $450 woofers are now a days its hard to go wrong

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

Orion is owned by the same group that owns pyramid.

You killed that sub. Find out why before you waste more money

 

[kr15 5,000+ posts]

Sundown

 

[morales3592]

If I'm not mistaken aren't the soft parts on hdc3 China made? So now that I figured out the audiopipe is trash do y'all recommend the scv 1500 or 2000 for the x series. Where can I get nsv3 coils and is it hard to put it in? I would stick with the hdc3 but I'm wanting something with a big *** surround for lows and excursion!! I appreciate everyone's input //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

If I'm not mistaken aren't the soft parts on hdc3 China made? So now that I figured out the audiopipe is trash do y'all recommend the scv 1500 or 2000 for the x series. Where can I get nsv3 coils and is it hard to put it in? I would stick with the hdc3 but I'm wanting something with a big *** surround for lows and excursion!! I appreciate everyone's input //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

you think orion and sundown are american made? Its all upper end china. Just like apple products etc... everything is from china. Just you got good china and bad china. HDC is considered decent above average china. Go with an SSA Evil or Xcon if you want american wound coils that can dig low.

 

[avs20 10+ year member]

Lol. These threads are hilarious //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[Massive spl]

Everything is from Korea or China. Who cares... Look at quality of product and customer service.

 

[Umphism]

I'll sell you my x12 just needs one of the leads fixed if ur interested

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[morales3592]

Ok so I probably did clip it to death lol audiopipe is a cheap amp but it was what I had at the time so now that I decided on the x12 what amp do you all recommend? Scv1500, 2000? All input is welcomed thanks everyone

 

[Umphism]

Always go more for down the road when you upgrade ?

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