Should I go 3-way?

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

all i am trying to do is make sure you guys understand what happens when you do things like add speakers and such. its alot better knowing what happens or what will happen ahead of time so you can plan accordingly. sure tonally and maybe in volume a 3 way will/could be better but in most cases comes at a cost. i run my system attinuated like a mofo all it is is what you see in my sig . when its turned up you cant hear yourself yell nor can you tell where ANY of the speakers are at. when you do this it might not be exactly what you wanted in your system but any system would benefit from having these qualities. things are alot clearer and you can pick out parts of the music study it it tune it shape it ALOT better from that stand point as well. eric stevens taught me some of the points to this first hand

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

3-ways can be basically just as transparent as a 2-way, if done correctly. All those pro SQ competitors can't be wrong.

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

not saying it cant but the actual ones that actually pull it off are less than you might think. alot of the "good" cars only exibit a few of the qualites that the others have. anymore though it isnt that tough to be looked at as a top sq guy. (not insulting the old timers here) but over the last year or 2 the # of cars at the shows are very small. in fact in 97 at 2 national events i had almost as many cars in my class as they had at svr as a total. heck i coulda took my truck to tennesee at the truck jam and won a usac x2 point trophy by default lol. all i can really say is alot of guys that compete try and set the bar higher and or find their nitch. outside of a couple classes in any sq contest there really isnt too much there anymore. outside of class d amps, high x max subs and painted fiberglass VERY little has changed. things were going digital 10 yrs ago , people had walls of subs, horns, 2 way and 3 way speaker sets, center channel speakers... and if you really believe year in and year out that they (the manufacturers) make vast strides in speaker sound reproduction (better speakers and amps) you fall for alot of marketing scams. after all what i say, believe and know doesnt keep masses of people buying new equipment year in and year out thinking each progressive year is the latest and greatest.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

well i forgot one thing there dts but itll be a cold day in hell for me to go into that lol it wont be by choice. it will be by a forced format change when cds become obsuleeeeeeeete.

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

and if i said that i thought you knew alot i would be lying as well. back way back when this stuff was fundamental stuff.

Ouch man, you cut me deep. If I were the sensitive type I'd probably be crying right now but since I'm not............go to hell you bastage....... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

well i forgot one thing there dts but itll be a cold day in hell for me to go into that lol it wont be by choice. it will be by a forced format change when cds become obsuleeeeeeeete.

Please explain this...what is dts???

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

digital surround sound its in a dvd format thinking they have it at 5.1 or 7.1. i used to keep up on it then after i listened to it it takes away from what a true natural sound stage is supossed to do. all it is imo is a way to keep the masses buying new things if they wish to listen to music. either buy mp3 or if you want a new alblum buy the dvd lol(its not here yet but i see it coming)

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

digital surround sound its in a dvd format thinking they have it at 5.1 or 7.1. i used to keep up on it then after i listened to it it takes away from what a true natural sound stage is supossed to do. all it is imo is a way to keep the masses buying new things if they wish to listen to music. either buy mp3 or if you want a new alblum buy the dvd lol(its not here yet but i see it coming)

I got ya!! I know what DTS is. Personally I do NOT see that day coming. DTS Dvd's have been available for over 5 years now and they haven't made a dent in cd sales yet. In my opinion DTS sucks for music. For the best multi channel music, DVD-Audio "advanced resolution" is FARRR better for this application. Not to mention DVD-Audio also comes with "advanced resolution stereo" which rivals vinyl in my opinon. But like I said cd sales haven't been affected by these formats yet and probably won't because they are a niche format.

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

also if i may ask what do you refference your system against?

I guess I must have overlooked this question the other day. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif But I must admit I don't really understand what you're asking.

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

you dont refference your system against anything? like a set of home speakers or anything like that?

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

I guess I must have overlooked this question the other day. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif But I must admit I don't really understand what you're asking.

He was asking if you have a "reference system". You know, something that sounds the way a stereo "should sound" that you compare your system to in order to determine how well your stereo is setup in terms of tonality, imaging, etc etc.

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

I have Denon AVR-3805 receiver and a Denon DVD-3910 universal player. My speakers are Mirage with a Velodyne subwoofer. This is in the basement so its not like I can do A-B comparisons with my car system.

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

shouldnt have to do a b anything. all its for is gaining perspective.

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

Oh ok then, well if I had my way my car would sound like my home system so I guess you could say that is my reference system then.

 

[cjjackson85 5,000+ posts]

A 3-way setup would be awesome, just gotta convince the wifey...

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

Oh ok then, well if I had my way my car would sound like my home system so I guess you could say that is my reference system then.

should be a fairly easy experiment if you have extra speakers laying around.