" Why the **** should I help people who don't want to help themselves. "

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

It is neither the governments nor the state of Louisiana's problem that a hurricane hit.
People need to rebuild on thier own.

If you can't or don't have the financial means to relocate, too bad.

.. only bad part is around 150,000 of the people in lower LA only made $8,000 a year, and now these people might stay in TX..

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I'm not sure I agree with the first sentence...I mean, it is their responsibility to provide rescue services and support for the refugees. To supply them with food and shelter. If the state completely turned its back on these people, it would be criminally negligent.

However, I do agree with your statement about rebuilding...this is a floodplain, people. It's exactly like these assholes that build their houses on the NC/SC coastline and expect to get money to rebuild after a storm wipes their house into the ocean. If you build your house 15 feet below sea level, you have to realize that it's in extreme danger of being flooded, just like if you put your house on the ocean side of a barrier island it stands a good chance of being swept up in storm surge. That's common logic. You shouldn't get paid because of your stupidity...

 

[tRiGgEr 5,000+ posts]

http://www.juiceenewsdaily.com/0605/sports/buses.html?1125879106453

Pwnt... What a n00b.

 

[Johnny Drama 5,000+ posts]

and by the way Im not blaming any one person for anything...i just think its a bad situation as a whole.
http://www.juiceenewsdaily.com/0605/sports/buses.html?1125879106453

I read a similar story on another news site a day or so ago. honestly it is multiple peoples fault. But like I said in my first post...it is time to move on. We need to get people motivated instead of sitting here and blaming others. (this is not directed to you, but the nation as a whole)

Then and only then will we settle the mess and try and get the homeless, jobless, and dead settled.

 

[Prowler573 5,000+ posts]

I read a similar story on another news site a day or so ago. honestly it is multiple peoples' fault. But like I said in my first post...it is time to move on. We need to get people motivated instead of sitting here and blaming others. (this is not directed to you, but the nation as a whole)
Then and only then will we settle the mess and try and get the homeless, jobless, and dead settled.

Exactly right - let's handle the problems that need to be immediately handled (thousands upon thousands of displaced Louisianians, Mississippians, Alabamians, and Georgians) and then fool with all the politicking later...

 

[Johnny Drama 5,000+ posts]

I'm not sure I agree with the first sentence...I mean, it is their responsibility to provide rescue services and support for the refugees. To supply them with food and shelter. If the state completely turned its back on these people, it would be criminally negligent.
However, I do agree with your statement about rebuilding...this is a floodplain, people. It's exactly like these assholes that build their houses on the NC/SC coastline and expect to get money to rebuild after a storm wipes their house into the ocean. If you build your house 15 feet below sea level, you have to realize that it's in extreme danger of being flooded, just like if you put your house on the ocean side of a barrier island it stands a good chance of being swept up in storm surge. That's common logic. You shouldn't get paid because of your stupidity...

In NOLA you are required to have flood insurance. The government is the one who covers the insurance, unlike regular home owners insurance.

 

[twoohfour 10+ year member]

Well, i'm not going to read through the last 3000 posts.

But i noticed my response got deleted by snova.

Given i wrote it right before i went to sleep and i was tired so i don't remember...

But i absolutely cannot think of anything i may've said that was against any sort of posting rules ???????? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

 

[Expy2000]

We are going to spend 100 Billion dollars to rebuild a dump that will just be a sitting target for next years Hurricane season..

What a waste.. but its natures way of getting rid of the undisireables..

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[GRANDV 10+ year member]

We have a lot of ignorant people in this world, no matter their race, creed, religion or color and it will always be that way. Hey, I apologize for what you went thru when you volunteered your time. Right, you have a lot of distraught, angry, and sad people who think their world has just ended. They have lost their homes, jobs, and family members. This is not a perfect world, (I wish it were) and unfortunately everyone is not going to say thank you, or pick up the garbage or be thankful they are alive. They are living in the moment and for some the moment does not exist anymore. I am not condoning the ones who are looting, raping, and disrepecting those trying to help. They will get theirs, trust me. But for now, America as never dealt with something like this before and those involved in the disater and survived have no clue either. Maybe in time they will look back and see the help that was given and appreciate those who came to aid. We can put the blame on the president, government, or governor. We can say that all the problems occurring after the hurricane are 95% blacks, acting selfish, rude, ungrateful. We can, but now is not the time for that, it is time to help those in need, no matter what they say or don't say. Just look at the bigger picture, we are hurting and no one is going to help us, but ourselves. We need to be the bigger person and ignore the comments, because in the long run, we get to go back home, we get to turn off the tv and wake up the next morning to take a shower brush our teeth and take for granted what those in those states had before hurricane Katrina pass through. Trust me, they may not show or say it, but they are hurting 10 fold.

I apologize for the long comment, but this is crazy when you think this can't happen, this won't happen and it does. We are hurting now, but when the water goes down and the 10's of thousands of bodies are just laying their from those who are elderly to those who are just babies, we will all feel the hurt. They say things happen for a reason, sometimes I wish certain things wouldn't happen. UNITED WE STAND.

Peace

 

[Brock 5,000+ posts]

We are going to spend 100 Billion dollars to rebuild a dump that will just be a sitting target for next years Hurricane season..
What a waste.. but its natures way of getting rid of the undisireables..

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sometimes i wish texas would just form its own country. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

i just read it, and i understand both sides. i HIGHLY disagree with the use of racial slurs. but come on people! if you wanted to save yourself from falling off a 1000 foot high cliff, you'd do all u could wouldn't you? but why won't you help yourself to keep living? its pathetic on both sides. people need to start being responsible for themselves.

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

sometimes i wish texas would just form its own country. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

IIRC, they're the only state whose charter specifically says it can...into six different "states" (hence the "six flags" of Texas).

I wish they would hurry up and do it already.

 

[RandyJ 10+ year member]

IIRC, they're the only state whose charter specifically says it can...into six different "states" (hence the "six flags" of Texas).
I wish they would hurry up and do it already.

Hey now, I may reside in Va but im a Texan at heart //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

 

[mrray13 10+ year member]

what?? texas isn't it's own country already???

anyway..i had a big reply in my head about the race cards and such, but why? all the questions that can be asked, have, and the one that matters as yet to be answered in any kind of intelligent manner. (you know, if n*gger is such a bad word, why do black ppl use it as a term of endearment)

as to the hurricane, well, the video's speak for themselves. i have donated money, bought cleaning supplies and diapers for the relief effort. yet, i know that the majority of that will go to ppl who would rather loot a store for a pair of kicks instead of for food (which i wouldn't call looting, but rather surviving). the ppl's priorites are screwed, the image is too important and the real NOLA is showing itself. i would wager that half of what is on the media over katrina, wouldn't be happening in the heartland if an F5 tornado wiped out a big chunk of it. when we got flooded a few years big (nothing the scale of NOLA), there wasn't looting, there was sandbagging. There wasn't raping, but ppl in their private boats going door to door seeing if anyone needed help. and i honestly don't remember a direct call for help, we just showed up.

but all in all, i think one thing can be said for certain....NOLA got was coming to them because their goverment (not federal, but local) didn't care what happened to them. if they did, all means necessary would have been used to evacute two days earlier per federal order. now the mayor and governor are trying to point fingers to say their political *****...both of them should be forced to clean up NOLA, as volunteers, not as goverment officials. i also believe the able bodied ppl of NOLA should go back and help clean up their city. but that's just me....

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[joshpoints 10+ year member]

There are various reasons for this. One thing that has to be understood is many poor people are poor due to mental health issues or disturbances. What you must also realize is some may not have said thank you because they were in shock. You must also realize you are in the south and there are just as many racist white people as black people. For some reason I guess there is enjoyment in it, otherwise I see no reason in wasting energy for being mad at a race for how they look or from what they were like in the past.

Although you may think of it as a bunch of lazy people abusing the system, liberals would look at it as a way to protect society. If you don't give these people welfare they are just going to commit crimes which could put others in danger. This creates a perpetual cycle and is part of the reason why they feel the man is keeping them down. Yes education would be a more effective solution but they may not view education as important or may have no hope of success due to the belief (and reality in my opinion) of the "man" who is holding them down because they are from the racist south. Get out of the south and you have a chance but stay there and the odds are against you. But how do they get out of the poor area? How do they get out of the hole to move to a more expensive area that offers a fair education and job oppertunities when they have an education? It's not easy. Work two jobs and leave your children unsupervised all times of the day and night? This may just cause your child to fall into gang activity or illegal activity to make money easy and fast. What really needs to happen is some major black role models need to come out like Bill Cosby to try and keep the kids out of the street and show them getting an education is the right path in the long run even though the streets may be more attractive. Even I have looked at people that have made good money through illegal activity and have felt an attraction to it but I resisted. The attitude of the young black children must change, because simply blaming racism isn't going to get you anywhere.

 

[joshpoints 10+ year member]

theyre probably pissed off because it took us so long to help them in the first place. lol.

It didn't take us that long to help them. This was actually explained on television. There is only one major interstate into the area and the equipment couldn't be moved in until the hurrican had hit otherwise you risk the chance of having no equipment to rescue the people. Also the hurricane didn't only hit new orleans. Federal help wasn't requested initially because the state level was fine at handling the initial damage. Then the levee broke and at that point it was too large for the state to deal with and federal help had to be requested.