problem with new AA Arsenal Unbelievable!!

[B_Campbell 10+ year member]

Well, for the record, thats one **** good looking sub. I wana see pics of the HAVOC

 

[bigrobrn 10+ year member]

thanks for your help guys.

I will try getting in touch with chad today again.

Hopefully I will get them.

 

[bamaboy 5,000+ posts]

hope it works out good

 

[headknocker 10+ year member]

I'm dying to know myself since I still have my Arsenal 12 sitting in the box in my bedroom...been sitting there mocking me for two months now //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif I'm still waiting to scrape up the funds for the PG Octane 8.0:1 amp(600 watts x 1 @ 2 ohms) so I'm looking to get the most out of this excellent SQL sub.

I only listened to it for around an hour with various material shortly after I got it and it impressed me quite a bit. I was only giving it a measly 160 watts but it was apparent that it can get pretty loud,goes down low(noticeably lower than my Atlas 12), but still retain excellent SQ. I didn't hear any bloated,sloppy overhang....just tight,clean,hard-hitting bass.

 

[Vausen 10+ year member]

Shoulda bought eD //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Anyway, hope it works out.

 

[bigrobrn 10+ year member]

UPDATE

I spoke with Chad today. I was told that I probably burned up one of the voice coils by either clipping the signal real bad, or there is a mechanical problem with the sub. A mechanical problem = new sub for no cost. A burned vc = my problem and I guess a recone.

My problem is this. I babied that SOB like my I baby my genitals. Its brand new and I treated it like the rest of my audio stuff that has lasted me eons. I have never blown a sub, ever. I bought this sub for SQ, not SPL. He tried telling me in an around about way that everyone calls telling him "I only gave the sub 50 watts and barely played it." That kinda pissed me off stereotyping me like that. I'm a 30yr old married man with a family. I know how to care for my audio/visual stuff.

Now, if the vc is damaged, it sure as hell isn't from overpowering. 600 watts never even got this sub near full excursion in a 1.2 cu ft sealed box. I set my gains with the Autosound set up discs and instructional manual. I have an Arc Audio single vc 4ohm sub that I have pushed way beyond its limits and that sub just begs for more abuse, and takes it.

One more note. On closer observation, the top magnet does appear to be shifted significantly more to one side. It is far from centered around the motor, but is that really a problem?

I will be shipping the sub back in the morning. I will be very shocked and baffled to hear if a vc is damaged. He said it would only take him seconds to tell what the problem is. The question is, do I really want a sub that burns up (if'n it is) without even getting down on it and pushing it? Maybe a got a bad one. Who knows.

I knew I should have bought that Arc Audio 12D4.

 

[InhumanAcura 5,000+ posts]

its a defect...look at the slugs and moving assembly. its all fugged up.

the gap is only so large, and the coil is "floating" in between the inside of the slugs and the pole..if the slugs move, it'll pinch the coil in place and not let it move...the magnets are pretty strong, so it definately has the capability to seize it up..

i bought a "blown" old hcca series sub with the older tc9 and when i got it i could tell right away the motor was ****ed..pulled it apart and the coils were immaculate (with the exception of a bit of scarring from being pinched..the exact same situation youre in.

id be willing to bet you could pull the bottom plate right off the motor if you didnt have to send it in.

 

[req 5,000+ posts]

defintaly looks at closer inspection that the slugs\motor is shifted to the side. you can tell the whole cone is tilted a bit. (and a bit i mean very very little)

i trust that you will be getting a new sub shortly. i bet it was just a factory dud that had not enough glue one it. it happens now and then, i HIGHLY doubt it was any resort of "heat on the motor"

and i know a few people who have these. i met a kid in ohio that had a pair and he had a 2500d to them. and they were goign way beyond their limits and you could smell glue burning.

they can definatly handle power.

 

[bigrobrn 10+ year member]

I appreciate y'all pointing that out.

Do these magnified pics tell what possibly the problem is.

Chad made mention that this can happen when the sub is dropped also.

Watch me get accused of dropping this beauty. You'll see one upset coonass!

 

[bigrobrn 10+ year member]

do those last pics help clear it up any??

 

[InhumanAcura 5,000+ posts]

why does it need to be cleared up any further?

 

[bigrobrn 10+ year member]

just wanted to post some better pics of what the problem could be.

didn't mean to offend.

 

[InhumanAcura 5,000+ posts]

no offense taken //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

but, if the coils read okay...youre in the clear..

the slugs are obviously out of whack and the coil is seized.

if you feel AA might try to pull something, cover your *** and wire the coils in series and take a pic of the dmm reading the coils okay.

 

[req 5,000+ posts]

as far as your story goes, it does not make sense that the motor would virtually fall apart due to sitting.

that is extremly unlikely in any case. but chad did say as long as the coils arent done you are okay.

*shrug*

you can obviously tell the cone is at an angle and the slugs are pinching it.