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[thegreatestpenn 5,000+ posts]

People who want socialized healthcare are just mad.
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mad at/for what?

 

[thegreatestpenn 5,000+ posts]

I'm not talking about malpractice insurance. I'm talking about healthcare insurance.

healthcare insurers are evil too. but I think all insurance companies are evil, along with credit companies.

yet insurance and credit industries are multi-billion dollar companies that aren't going anywhere in America

 

[galacticmonkey 5,000+ posts]

mad at/for what?

Doesnt matter. Youre just mad.

 

[rugdnit 10+ year member]

you're a douche because you have an attitude problem. there are many people like myself who are self employed and do not have company provided benefits. glad to hear you pay $30-- THAT IS AWESOME. i have to pay $600 a month for myself, wife and new baby. there are many people in the same boat as me. it's expensive, but it's the best option i have in this whole mess. our system is broken and no fix will be perfect for everybody, but something has to be done. rather than just pissing on any plan that was not created by your political party of choice- what option are you offering up that is better? if it truly is better then how come we don't have that? i would love to hear your plan. you have set nothing forth here other that you have an education and a high post count. that does not qualify you to stick your thumb in the *** of anyone that is trying to improve the situation. the system in place for veterans is not perfect, but at least they have something. if they don't like it they are free to shop for a better plan and pay more money. let's take away the health care provided to our Senators and Congressman and then let's see how fast something gets done. what it comes down to is that nothing ever gets done- when clearly the current system is broken. it's a non issue for you because, you have great benefits. that is not the case for the majority in this country.

 

[rugdnit 10+ year member]

now that IS Funny! good one!

 

[lolumad over 10+ year member]

you're a douche because you have an attitude problem. there are many people like myself who are self employed and do not have company provided benefits. glad to hear you pay $30-- THAT IS AWESOME. i have to pay $600 a month for myself, wife and new baby. there are many people in the same boat as me. it's expensive, but it's the best option i have in this whole mess. our system is broken and no fix will be perfect for everybody, but something has to be done. rather than just pissing on any plan that was not created by your political party of choice- what option are you offering up that is better? if it truly is better then how come we don't have that? i would love to hear your plan. you have set nothing forth here other that you have an education and a high post count. that does not qualify you to stick your thumb in the *** of anyone that is trying to improve the situation. the system in place for veterans is not perfect, but at least they have something. if they don't like it they are free to shop for a better plan and pay more money. let's take away the health care provided to our Senators and Congressman and then let's see how fast something gets done. what it comes down to is that nothing ever gets done- when clearly the current system is broken. it's a non issue for you because, you have great benefits. that is not the case for the majority in this country.

I love when failures without a clue get mad.

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

healthcare insurers are evil too. but I think all insurance companies are evil, along with credit companies.
yet insurance and credit industries are multi-billion dollar companies that aren't going anywhere in America

Insurance companies aren't evil, they are just lucky sumbichez cause they thought of the idea first. Everyone fears that bad things will happen. Insurance is just selling peace of mind. Government mandates of insurance have questionable ethical implications but such is the way of the world. Today to live properly you must pay. This is unnatural. It should be a right to have water, food, and transportation. The world has become far too fiscal and greedy. I hate to sound like a trecky but think how much better the world would be if instead of working for money. Everyone worked for no money but everything was free. You are exchanging services for other services and status was based on a system of determining the desirability and importance of your job. (IE: if you were a doctor or a sewer worker you were eligible for a bigger house or nicer car.) Cut out the evil middle man(money) and hard work and accommodation of fellow humans becomes the driving force of the culture, not greed.

...nice thought

 

[rugdnit 10+ year member]

How to fix it:
Fix the tort system to prevent frivolous lawsuits against doctors. Doctors' malpractice insurance premiums drop. Your healthcare costs drop.

WITHOUT A DOUBT.

 

[davidfre21 5,000+ posts]

you're a douche because you have an attitude problem. there are many people like myself who are self employed and do not have company provided benefits. glad to hear you pay $30-- THAT IS AWESOME. i have to pay $600 a month for myself, wife and new baby. there are many people in the same boat as me. it's expensive, but it's the best option i have in this whole mess. our system is broken and no fix will be perfect for everybody, but something has to be done. rather than just pissing on any plan that was not created by your political party of choice- what option are you offering up that is better? if it truly is better then how come we don't have that? i would love to hear your plan. you have set nothing forth here other that you have an education and a high post count. that does not qualify you to stick your thumb in the *** of anyone that is trying to improve the situation. the system in place for veterans is not perfect, but at least they have something. if they don't like it they are free to shop for a better plan and pay more money. let's take away the health care provided to our Senators and Congressman and then let's see how fast something gets done. what it comes down to is that nothing ever gets done- when clearly the current system is broken. it's a non issue for you because, you have great benefits. that is not the case for the majority in this country.

i bet you voted for obama, obvious really. By the way you want other people to pay your bills. Why did you start your own business? Why not work for someone who offers insurance?

If it aint broke dont fix it, i feel whats offered to me is more than fair. If i wanted to be fixed for free/cheap maybe i should have became a doctor or something....

 

[thegreatestpenn 5,000+ posts]

Insurance companies aren't evil, they are just lucky sumbichez cause they thought of the idea first. Everyone fears that bad things will happen. Insurance is just selling peace of mind. Government mandates of insurance have questionable ethical implications but such is the way of the world. Today to live properly you must pay. This is unnatural. It should be a right to have water, food, and transportation. The world has become far too fiscal and greedy. I hate to sound like a trecky but think how much better the world would be if instead of working for money. Everyone worked for no money but everything was free. You are exchanging services for other services and status was based on a system of determining the desirability and importance of your job. (IE: if you were a doctor or a sewer worker you were eligible for a bigger house or nicer car.) Cut out the evil middle man(money) and hard work and accommodation of fellow humans becomes the driving force of the culture, not greed.
...nice thought

barter system? too many admins would be out of a job

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

You're a fuckin dunce. A right to transportation? That's more stupid than a right to healthcare.

Why? you are forced to live in an area where you cannot plausibly reach your daily job on foot, so why should you be forced to secure your transportation to that job?