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[duece212 5,000+ posts]

You die. That's right I said it. You die.
I do not believe the community is required to subsidize the lives of others.

This

 

[rugdnit 10+ year member]

if socialized medicine is SO BAD how come it is good enough for our VETERANS?

enough is enough.... stop buying in to the political banter here.... this should not be about democrats and republicans.... THIS IS ABOUT AMERICANS. the current system is VERY PROFITABLE and there are many that don't want it to change-- they will feed you with a bunch of doom and gloom. health insurance companies are making record profits off of other peoples suffering-- if that does not bother you something is wrong. this country needs health care- will it be perfect? NO, but it will be better than the crap that has been allowed to go on under our crooked gov't- left or right ( your senators and congressman have been screwing your eyeballs out while they have you distracted with things like abortion and gun rights ). don't give me the whole freedom of choice bit either.... the only real freedom you have in this country anymore is-- Pepsi or Coke.

you want real change in this country? TRY VOTING OUT THE INCUMBENT EVERY TIME YOU VOTE. change will not happen according to who you vote for president every 4 years. where your vote matters is your senators and congressman. you want to blame someone-- blame them and vote them out.

THINK ABOUT IT.

 

[jmanpc 5,000+ posts]

Socialized medicine =/= government health insurance used by army personnel //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 

[thegreatestpenn 5,000+ posts]

cool, more healthcare trolling.....

 

[its_bacon12 10+ year member]

You forgot to include that any new private plans after the bill is in effect are outlawed. Meaning if you lose private insurance after losing your job, you cannot get private insurance again in the united states.

 

[galacticmonkey 5,000+ posts]

And in this bill abortions will be included under healthcare, so even if you dont agree with abortions, your tax dollars will be paying for them.

 

[rugdnit 10+ year member]

and you're still a douche spider monkey.... i am sure we can all rest better now that you have chimed in. GET OVER YOURSELF.

BTW-- my point exactly about veterans.... it's not great, but it's better than nothing. what do you pay for insurance?

 

[thegreatestpenn 5,000+ posts]

I'm not a fan of socialized healthcare so much as I think its tragic how people are kicked out of ERs and denied surgeries & procedures even when they have health coverage. Insurance premiums are getting higher, but covered treatment is becoming less and less. Something is definitely wrong with the American healthcare system as a whole.

But I don't know how to fix it

 

[lolumad over 10+ year member]

and you're still a douche spider monkey.... i am sure we can all rest better now that you have chimed in. GET OVER YOURSELF.
BTW-- my point exactly about veterans.... it's not great, but it's better than nothing. what do you pay for insurance?

Yes, I am more at ease with him weighing in. Considering he has the most experience in this topic, I consider his opinion as and expert opinion. Certainly beats the the multitude of dumbasses chiming in without a clue //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

I'm not a fan of socialized healthcare so much as I think its tragic how people are kicked out of ERs and denied surgeries & procedures even when they have health coverage. Insurance premiums are getting higher, but covered treatment is becoming less and less. Something is definitely wrong with the American healthcare system as a whole.
But I don't know how to fix it

I guess it depends on whether or not you feel the community has an obligation for others to live. It is clear that the state has this mandate, in that healthy, product citizens are required for it's existence. But the community? There was a time, back in the 50s, where communities cared for one another.

Everyone seems to think there is so much wrong with the American system. but no one worries about what's right. Want to see some magic...look how the cost of Lasik surgery, which comes out of people's pockets, has plummetted over the past 5 years. Why? Because it's competitive. I believe health care costs can be contained better by working off the HSA model.

If the system wanted to re-distribute wealth via HSAs, I'd support that. And using the HSA people could purchase the level of coverage they wanted.

 

[jmanpc 5,000+ posts]

How to fix it:

Fix the tort system to prevent frivolous lawsuits against doctors. Doctors' malpractice insurance premiums drop. Your healthcare costs drop.

Oh, and quit paying for healthcare for illegals. I think if I went to Canada and demanded treatment, they'd laugh in my face and tell me to gtfo.

 

[thegreatestpenn 5,000+ posts]

Uh, bro.... It is illegal to kick people out of the ER and deny coverage regardless of their insurance status. That's the god **** problem with the system. If you don't have insurance, you should not be allowed to receive services. Like the auto industry. If you don't have coverage, you can't drive.

cleveland clinic puts people in taxis and sends them elsewhere to receive treatment when they don't cover the patient's needed care.

this is not the only hospital that does this. so if you define "coverage" as cleaning wounds, buying a taxi, and shipping off to another hospital then yeah everyone gets care.