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[hispls 5,000+ posts]

I'm sure he's well aware the test is designed to be indistinglishable that's why.. and I'll say if you can get 8 out of ten you can definitely hear a difference. Many people have at that.

And I've seen guys make 8 points in a row at a dice table in the casino, it doesn't mean they are psychic, it's just the chance of guessing 8 coin tosses out of 10 which isn't really improbable. If the difference were audible 10 out of 10 would have happened. Any amp that isn't tube driven or utter garbage won't sound any different from the next within its unclipped operating parameters. This topic has been done, dead, and buried and more clever folks than you have tried to disprove the fact and failed.

Are you jealous that Kuthe is stealing your dunce cap or something? Just let it go.

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

And I've seen guys make 8 points in a row at a dice table in the casino, it doesn't mean they are psychic, it's just the chance of guessing 8 coin tosses out of 10 which isn't really improbable. If the difference were audible 10 out of 10 would have happened. Any amp that isn't tube driven or utter garbage won't sound any different from the next within its unclipped operating parameters. This topic has been done, dead, and buried and more clever folks than you have tried to disprove the fact and failed.
Are you jealous that Kuthe is stealing your dunce cap or something? Just let it go.

I don't think anyone ever got 8 out of 10.

 

[Slo_Ride 5,000+ posts]

Here's the riddle. Auburn jumped A&M in the west.

If bama loses too LSU, we beat LSU. Does auburn jump bama

Nah. They wouldn't drop Alabama that low. Besides LSU doesn't have a chance.

 

[bamaman]

Here's the riddle. Auburn jumped A&M in the west.

If bama loses too LSU, we beat LSU. Does auburn jump bama

Nah, with Auburn having 2 losses I wouldn't count on it, but it is possible in college football

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[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

like IVE said there IS A difference. hook up a oscope to a driver and watch the feedback affect the signal. without processing to hell listen to each amp.. I bet you will hear a difference. If that the case why are you spending 100s of dollars instead of buying pyramid or budget lanzar? because you know **** WELL there iS a difference when driving a reactive load.. if you disagree you are A literate or B lying out your ***.

everyone who says this ends up owning high dollar highend equipment be swears its the same. the budget lanzars are capable of a clean output SIGNAL why waste your money?

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

I don't think anyone ever got 8 out of 10.

do some hunting.. people will tell you the REAL DEAL.. matter fact ask anyone who builds highend amps. lol they don't do it for higher profit margins because I assure it that isn't the case

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

do some hunting.. people will tell you the REAL DEAL.. matter fact ask anyone who builds highend amps. lol they don't do it for higher profit margins because I assure it that isn't the case

lol I don't need to ask. I've seen plenty say what's real. And most agree with me. Even the ones that bought audiofool grade. After the new worm off they felt the same way. But it's the the pride of ownership.

And of course the high end builders are going to say it matters. Their sales rely on people believing them, like dumb *** Ray Rayfeild.

I'm pretty sure most Of the audiophile community have accepted the fact.

Also when you say cheap amps. You do understand they will run out of power faster right?

 

[The_Quiet_One 10+ year member]

like IVE said there IS A difference. hook up a oscope to a driver and watch the feedback affect the signal. without processing to hell listen to each amp.. I bet you will hear a difference. If that the case why are you spending 100s of dollars instead of buying pyramid or budget lanzar? because you know **** WELL there iS a difference when driving a reactive load.. if you disagree you are A literate or B lying out your ***.
everyone who says this ends up owning high dollar highend equipment be swears its the same. the budget lanzars are capable of a clean output SIGNAL why waste your money?

Maybe because pyle, lanzar, etc can't produce power. Why would I support a company that so blatantly lies about power ratings even if they could put out? Not to mention I think my Helix amps are **** //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fro.gif.c695f1f814b01c4ad99fe7f8cccadd29.gif

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

Maybe because pyle, lanzar, etc can't produce power. Why would I support a company that so blatantly lies about power ratings even if they could put out? Not to mention I think my Helix amps are **** //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fro.gif.c695f1f814b01c4ad99fe7f8cccadd29.gif

Trust me your full of it.. kmsl so is anyone else that says different. I've made my point clear. If you disagree Lanzar makes a real 75x4 that's 129 bucks that will fit right in your existing spot

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

Lanzar VIBE452N Vibe 6000W 4CH MOSFET Amplifier w/ Remote Subwoofer Bass Control - LNZ13-VIBE452N

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

lol I don't need to ask. I've seen plenty say what's real. And most agree with me. Even the ones that bought audiofool grade. After the new worm off they felt the same way. But it's the the pride of ownership. And of course the high end builders are going to say it matters. Their sales rely on people believing them, like dumb *** Ray Rayfeild.

I'm pretty sure most Of the audiophile community have accepted the fact.

Also when you say cheap amps. You do understand they will run out of power faster right?

Your talking to someone who understands amps better than you do.. you do realize that even the cheap *** amps are capable of the same output signal as long as they remain linear? But that all changes when a ACTUAL inductive/reactive load is introduced.. lol

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

Lanzar VIBE452N Vibe 6000W 4CH MOSFET Amplifier w/ Remote Subwoofer Bass Control - LNZ13-VIBE452N

90 amps of fusing. I'll bet it can do 75x4 unclipped

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

Your talking to someone who understands amps better than you do.. you do realize that even the cheap *** amps are capable of the same output signal as long as they remain linear? But that all changes when a ACTUAL inductive/reactive load is introduced.. lol

But all the test and real world results say you are 100% wrong. That's a better point then you just saying it because you believe it.

 

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90 amps of fusing. I'll bet it can do 75x4 unclipped

It has a fake fuse. Spare they call it. You should know that God of all amp knowledge

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

But all the test and real world results say you are 100% wrong. That's a better point then you just saying it because you believe it. 

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It has a fake fuse. Spare they call it. You should know that God of all amp knowledge

Let me see this fake fuse. You see where we agree is a line. A thin one but a line..

Fyi if all the test results show I'm wrong you must have never rear a car audio mag where they actually halfass test amps and show differences in output, fr etc...

I showed you how that dirty *** point had some apparent noise around 10k in the output. Jesus I'm gonna have to dig to show you again?

Trust me I understand the co Dept of linear output but that's the thing your almost never going to keep the output at .005℅ the. Face it..

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

Let me see this fake fuse. You see where we agree is a line. A thin one but a line..Fyi if all the test results show I'm wrong you must have never rear a car audio mag where they actually halfass test amps and show differences in output, fr etc...

I showed you how that dirty *** point had some apparent noise around 10k in the output. Jesus I'm gonna have to dig to show you again?

Trust me I understand the co Dept of linear output but that's the thing your almost never going to keep the output at .005℅ the. Face it..

It's proven bud. Give it up. You have to understand what can be measured can't be heard.

It was one of the amp dyno test. It had a fuse that wasn't hooked up to anything.

Hope on over to DIYMA and ask the question. The crowd that builds for listening. I'm sure there is already a thread there. Also look into a average persons hearing memory. Because science