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[Slo_Ride 5,000+ posts]

Not my team. I just need Bama to take this L

Not gonna happen bro. Alabama will win it all.

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

Looks like a bunch of marketing bafflegab to me. It reads like the 8$ a foot speaker wire link I posted. Do you really think that the electrons care whether they use silver and oil in a capacitor? Do you think that you'd hear the difference between a .5% and a 1% tolerance capacitor?
If you were trying to build an electron microscope or particle accelerator those tiny tolerance differences might be important but you're soft if you think that you'd hear that.

Not to continue to beat a long dead horse, but if there is an audible difference why didn't anyone take Mr. Clark's money?

You simply cannot grasp the concept. The test is meant to be impossible to pass.. I told you. Send me an amp I'll show you the difference.

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

The Sound of Audio Amplifiers: Can you hear a difference between Amps? | Audioholics

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

After you read that entire article we can discusd

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

You simply cannot grasp the concept. The test is meant to be impossible to pass.. I told you. Send me an amp I'll show you the difference.

They are level matched. That's point we are trying to get across.

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

There is a more recent ABX test on DIYMA. The results are as expected. Every person hears something different. Results are all over the place. When they could see the amps the opinions changed magically. It was a verity of topologies. One thing remained. The amps the market tells you are better scored better only when they could be seen.

 

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

I know you guys think amps dont affect sound and all that in car audio but in every other forms of audio aka home theater, and hi fidelity head phones, almost every amp sounds different. Not talking about DAC/Amps but just plain amps even within non clipping/distortion levels you hear a Clear cut major audible difference from amp A to amp B.

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

There is a more recent ABX test on DIYMA. The results are as expected. Every person hears something different. Results are all over the place. When they could see the amps the opinions changed magically. It was a verity of topologies. One thing remained. The amps the market tells you are better scored better only when they could be seen.

Read the **** article. This isn't guessing game it's FACTS AND MEASURMENTS

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

Read the **** article. This isn't guessing game it's FACTS AND MEASURMENTS

Well it's facts that nobody can tell a difference when testedin a controlled envirement. And a clean sine wave is always a clean sine wave.

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

I know you guys think amps dont affect sound and all that in car audio but in every other forms of audio aka home theater, and hi fidelity head phones, almost every amp sounds different. Not talking about DAC/Amps but just plain amps even within non clipping/distortion levels you hear a Clear cut major audible difference from amp A to amp B.

The same HT guys that think speaker wire makes a huge difference. And I've got 3 headphone amps and they all sound the same. Now headphones do sound different. But it's more of a response issue. Type of headphones. Open back, OEM, IEMs

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

The same HT guys that think speaker wire makes a huge difference. And I've got 3 headphone amps and they all sound the same. Now headphones do sound different. But it's more of a response issue. Type of headphones. Open back, OEM, IEMs

You don't have a clue how reactance or inductance affects drivers or amps. I've tried to teach but no..

Cables get hot and aren't perfect conductors will I argue they alone will sound better or worse? No. But combining all the factors n the electrical pathway they can have an affect on dampening reactance etc...

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

Well it's facts that nobody can tell a difference when testedin a controlled envirement. And a clean sine wave is always a clean sine wave.

I don't see the FACTS. I mean I'm still lookin but all I see I'd actual data that shows otherwise.. lol

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

You don't have a clue how reactance or inductance affects drivers or amps. I've tried to teach but no..Cables get hot and aren't perfect conductors will I argue they alone will sound better or worse? No. But combining all the factors n the electrical pathway they can have an affect on dampening reactance etc...

I understand where you are coming from. What I'm telling you as well as the ABX testing, it's all about what is audible. What effects what is audible. The amplifier is the least important part of the reproduction chain.

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

I understand where you are coming from. What I'm telling you as well as the ABX testing, it's all about what is audible. What effects what is audible. The amplifier is the least important part of the reproduction chain.

Seriously. The science behind the unique sound is there. You can refuse but it's there embrace it..

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

Seriously. The science behind the unique sound is there. You can refuse but it's there embrace it..

Science vs real world, documented, time tested, proven over and over again, golden ear failures.

My own personal experience with pretty nice amps of a vast verity. Tuning a solid SQ car used for critical listening testing THD levels.