Official Trump Thread - Winners only

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

The price difference in making most products here and china granted its the same quatitly is marginal. Just most countries can't afford highend product. The dollar being strong has its faults..

 

[The_Quiet_One 10+ year member]

You know what nafta is?We are still very competitive but other countries tariff is killing us!

Yes, I know. NAFTA wasn't the sickness. It was only one of the symptoms. As to your other quote I never said they couldn't be comparable, just that consumers 9 times out of 10 want the best deal. Currently, we're a throw away culture revelling in the race to zero and cheap labor markets generally win out. So again I ask what do you buy American? How do you contribute to the solution instead of exacerbating the problem?

 

[Roland 10+ year member]

You think the solution is simply by American? Hanging on to "American" manufacturing and "buying American", is like like hanging onto the buggy whip.

Times change, Manufacturing as a whole is changing whether we like it or not. In the next 10-20 years robotic automation, 3d printing, human enhancement... It's going to be a different world and there's no going back to manufacturing as it was. I hate seeing some communities hoping good paying manufacturing jobs come back to "their area", they need to get up and go where the jobs are. If we continue to think manufacturing is the answer to good jobs in America we are in for a major disappointment. If manufacturing is forced to come back to higher wage labor, it just drives companies to invest more in automation and fewer jobs are the result.

Long term honestly i don't know were the good jobs are going to be, maybe service or... It kind of hurts to say it, but "Made in America" is just not that important anymore. Buy the product that gives you the value and quality you want, the free market will sort itself out, it always does. (if it's a truly free market... Non subsidized, non tariff/penalized market)

Rant over

 

[Slo_Ride 5,000+ posts]

Times change, Manufacturing as a whole is changing whether we like it or not. In the next 10-20 years robotic automation, 3d printing, human enhancement... It's going to be a different world and there's no going back to manufacturing as it was.

Yep. This is a fact.

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

Yes, I know. NAFTA wasn't the sickness. It was only one of the symptoms. As to your other quote I never said they couldn't be comparable, just that consumers 9 times out of 10 want the best deal. Currently, we're a throw away culture revelling in the race to zero and cheap labor markets generally win out. So again I ask what do you buy American? How do you contribute to the solution instead of exacerbating the problem?

I buy everything I can if it's quatitly..

Nafta gave millions of manufacturing jobs to mexico and Canada. In return we got ****.

Stupid dumb obamas stupid dumb *** blocked the keystone pipeline which is alot of good paying jobs.

Countless **** that fucktards did to kill jobs.

The 4% unemployment rate was bullshit

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

Fyi. Its not just the American market. Its the international market..

 

[kr15 5,000+ posts]

Fukk nafta

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

You think the solution is simply by American? Hanging on to "American" manufacturing and "buying American", is like like hanging onto the buggy whip.
Times change, Manufacturing as a whole is changing whether we like it or not. In the next 10-20 years robotic automation, 3d printing, human enhancement... It's going to be a different world and there's no going back to manufacturing as it was. I hate seeing some communities hoping good paying manufacturing jobs come back to "their area", they need to get up and go where the jobs are. If we continue to think manufacturing is the answer to good jobs in America we are in for a major disappointment. If manufacturing is forced to come back to higher wage labor, it just drives companies to invest more in automation and fewer jobs are the result.

Long term honestly i don't know were the good jobs are going to be, maybe service or... It kind of hurts to say it, but "Made in America" is just not that important anymore. Buy the product that gives you the value and quality you want, the free market will sort itself out, it always does. (if it's a truly free market... Non subsidized, non tariff/penalized market)

Rant over

Automation already exist in nearly everthing.

Job creation comes from banks making loans for small business and those businesses expanding.

Robots has been here for years its certinally nothing new. The nafta jobs we gave away where good jobs. Like ford sending 15% of its production to mexico is just one of many examples.

Automation presents issues. Instead of building the cars we have to build the machines that build them. Those machines need maintenance. Demand rises growth increase more machinery is needed etc..

The next 30 years won't change a huge deal things are going to get Smallerr more efficent and more advanced in automated control.

Eventually we are only going to work 2 or 3 days a week and a muminum wage per month is going to have to be put in place. eventually the rich are going to control all of the world's money but they will have more moderately rich people and than the "poor" people who make minimum set monthly wages.

 

[Slo_Ride 5,000+ posts]

That's one of the most ignorant post you've made. And fuck you've made a lot of them. Job creation comes from innovation. See Elon Musk. AI will be here in the very near future. They even plan on having people on Mars in 20 years. Nobody said robots were new. Nobody said automation hasn't existed for years. You've been stuck out in the swamp to long. Soon "robots" will be servicing "robots". Not your clueless ass. If you really believe that things aren't going to change within the next 30 years then you are in for one hell of a surprise.

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

That's one of the most ignorant post you've made. And fuck you've made a lot of them. Job creation comes from innovation. See Elon Musk. AI will be here in the very near future. They even plan on having people on Mars in 20 years. Nobody said robots were new. Nobody said automation hasn't existed for years. You've been stuck out in the swamp to long. Soon "robots" will be servicing "robots". Not your clueless ass. If you really believe that things aren't going to change within the next 30 years then you are in for one hell of a surprise.

Your stupid. You heard that and think it's the only option yet in this industry alone there hasn't been much innovation. So throw that **** out the window.

And Elton musk is doing nothing new infact its old tech.

Not to mention his idea of a reusable rock is moronic.

The hyperloop train is outdated as well when we actually can use magnetic purpulsuion. Both for rockets and trains..

 

[Slo_Ride 5,000+ posts]

Your stupid. You head that and think it's the only option yet in this industry alone there hasn't been much innovation. So throw that **** out the window.
And Elton musk is doing great nothing new a.d his idea of a reusable rock is moronic.

The hypertrophy train is outdated as well when we actually can use magnetic purpulsuion. Both for rockets and trains..

I'm stupid? Wow. If that's the case then your are a literal retard. I mean Jesus Christ read your post. I feel sorry for you. I can't even begin to imagine what it must be like to be you.

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

I'm stupid? Wow. If that's the case then your are a literal retard. I mean Jesus Christ read your post. I feel sorry for you. I can't even begin to imagine what it must be like to be you.

Dude nasa knows **** well that the asteroid belt is a HUGE risk and water is so important that they need years of testing before they even think about going to mars.

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

Fyi. Musk doesn't have more tech than nasa. Kmsl

 

[Slo_Ride 5,000+ posts]

Dude nasa knows **** well that the asteroid belt is a HUGE risk and water is so important that they need years of testing before they even think about going to mars.

You're so fucking ignorant. Just a dumb backwoods idiot that doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. Can't even laugh at you anymore you're so pathetic.

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

You dont ever have any idea about automation technologies. Lol. A ******* idiot.

You telling me. Someone who does automation? Roflamao. I'm not even going to talk to you. Keep me on ignore.