Noob seeking advice

[MrFoca]

Yeah I'm sure he would want to mess with my install...lol

Well, He started somewhere.

 

[Daddie O]

Will the system be ok and sound good if I use the stock wiring, or do I need to do new wires from the amp directly to each speaker?

 

[mylows10 5,000+ posts]

Will the system be ok and sound good if I use the stock wiring, or do I need to do new wires from the amp directly to each speaker?

as long as you have good wires and a good connection ,the stock wires will be fine

 

[Daddie O]

I got the deck and speakers installed today. They fit just fine, no alterations or adapters needed. I guess Crutchfield doesn't know what they are talking about. Tomorrow I will get an amp and sub installed. A local shop quoted me $155 to install the5 channel amp including 4 gage wiring. Mossy other shops quoted double that.

 

[Daddie O]

When I got to the audio shop and told them I wanted the amp mounted on the back of the seat instead of the sub box they told me they would have to build a mount for it and that would cost extra. They also said I need an additional 2 sets of RCA that isn't included in the amp kit. They also recommended I go with a more expensive 2 gage amp kit. So with the additional wires, larger gage amp kit and the bracket they had to build it came to $200 for the install. I'm waiting add they do it now. I hope they do a good job. The amp kit they sold me is Renegade 35 ren.

 

[Side Show 10+ year member]

pics once done, mate... seems like a decent price to me

 

[UGHH]

Where did you go in sac? Just curious

 

[Daddie O]

I went to IB Custom. I'll take photos as soon as it's finished.

 

[Daddie O]

Okay, so the install hit a slight hiccup. Got everything wired and went to turn it on and nothing, no sound. So the installer busts out his tester and checks out the amp. He then says he thinks it is the remote wire. So he pulls the deck and tests the remote wire, and he says you have a bad deck, there is nothing coming out of the remote wire, and when I give power to it then your amp turns on and you hear music from the speakers. He says go to Best Buy and have them swap out the bad deck for a good one and then come back in the morning and I will tune the amp and finish mounting it.

So I go to Best Buy feeling pretty disappointed that I have spent so much time and money and don't even have tunes. The Best Buy installer was still there, and he says I doubt you have a bad deck, and I bet I know what he did wrong. The amp installer thought the blue wire was the remote turn on, but it was the wire for a power antenna. The remote wire is a blue wire with white stripe on Kenwoods. So the Best Buy guy connects the amp remote turn on to the correct wire and presto, I have sound! Of course the amp is tuned way low so I'm not enjoying and good sound yet, but tomorrow morning I will go back to the amp installer and have him tune and mount the amp, connect the sub, and I should be good to go.

 

[Daddie O]

What an effing ordeal. Please, anyone watching this thread, DO NOT got to IB Custom in Sacramento. So first they wire the amp and no sound and they tell me I have a bad deck, and Best Buy looks and says no he just wired the remote on the amp to the power antenna on the deck. Then I go back today to have them tune the amp and finish the mounting. After they finish I leave and pick up my wife for lunch. I say "Honey, check out the new sound system." She says, "I don't hear anything coming out of the passenger side speaker." I am half deaf in my right ear so I didn't notice that, so I ask if she is sure. She says well fade the stereo to the front and the balance to right and see. I do so, and find no sound coming out of the right front speaker. So I fade to the left and no sound. When I fade to the rear, I get sound out of my left front. No sound from the left rear no matter how I fade or balance.

So I go back to IB Customs, and I am irate but I stay relatively calm. I explain that they wired everything messed up and I have no sound from my front right, and no sound from my rear left, and when I fade to the back I hear my front left. They tell me they will fix it. So after a long wait they tell me I had a bad RCA cable, and they wired a new one in (but they left the old bad wire wired in). So then they tell me there is bad news. They say my front right speaker is bad, or it is disconnected in the door, and they don't want to mess with it since they didn't install the speaker. I tell them the speaker was just installed at Best Buy and was working when I brought it to them. They suggest I go back to Best Buy and have them check if it is still plugged in and if it is then they should replace the bad speaker.

I go back to Best Buy and tell the installer that I have no sound coming out of the right front speaker. He says thats odd because it worked yesterday. He checks out the wiring at the amp, and its ok. He checks out the speaker and he can make it pop. So he pulls out the deck, and pulls the wiring harness and says, "Aha! Here is your problem." He shows me a bent pin in the wiring harness. The guys at IB Custom had bent the pin when they put the harness back together. Best Buy installer straightens the pin and plugs the harness back in and voila! Sound from the right speaker. Best Buy installer=Genius. He found the problem right away both times. IB Custom=Idiots that can't install an amp correctly.

So I happen to notice a whine coming from the speakers that changes with the rpm of the motor. I ask Best Buy guy about it. He says it could be a couple of things. He says the gain could be turned up too high, and he asks me did IB Custom wire the RCA's on the opposite side of the car from the power wire? I say no, everything is on the left side of the car. He says, "Well that's your problem. It's car audio 101, that you wire RCA's on the opposite side from the power or you will get interference from the power wire." He said if IB Custom had used high quality RCA's instead of mid quality they might've been able to get away with it, but since they didn't, the whine is the result. He suggests I take it back and have them wire the RCA's on the opposite side, AKA the correct way. I am afraid to take it back to IB Custom, they **** donkey balls, and who knows what they will ruin.

 

[Daddie O]

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[trumpet 5,000+ posts]

When you said they upsold you to a Renegade wiring kit I was suspicious. From what I've seen in person the Renegade amplifier wiring kits are straight up generic, low quality kits with CCA undersized wire. We haven't had any problems with some of their speakers and a small selection of their amplifiers, but I will not sell the amp kits.

 

[Milk Mayne 10+ year member]

***** to hear bro. There's another one getting screwed over by an incompetent shop.

 

[djulz93 10+ year member]

Sorry to hear that man. That's why I just do my own installs. Good luck with getting rid of the engine noise