Next emerging Car audio brands

[thegreatestpenn 5,000+ posts]

Shok seems to be the next emerging Knukonceptz

shok isn't nearly as accessible as knu, but it a nice product

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

shok isn't nearly as accessible as knu, but it a nice product

I agree. When I was looking for cable last week, the Knu site was much easier to navigate and order from with much more options

 

[09civic 5,000+ posts]

Im thinking the only problem with obsidian is that they are designed partially by jacob from sundown and people might try to compare them to the sa. The sa is rated 600 watts and I've seen people put 4k into them. I have yet to see anyone do that to an oa,and they too are rated at 600 watts. Obviously build parts are different and for good reason--the oa is an affordable, efficient spl/sq driver which im sure will surpass most in its class and they seem absolutely awesome. I just hope no one expects an sa for that price.

How long has OA been around compared to SA? you think after a couple months that their subs will be at their full potential in design? no. they are still going to upgrade and try different things to improve.

 

[thegreatestpenn 5,000+ posts]

How long has OA been around compared to SA? you think after a couple months that their subs will be at their full potential in design? no. they are still going to upgrade and try different things to improve.

i think what he was saying is OA will only be as big as Sundown ALLOWS them to be. They have a ceiling

 

[09civic 5,000+ posts]

i think what he was saying is OA will only be as big as Sundown ALLOWS them to be. They have a ceiling

i dont think it should be like that.

 

[Mitch86 5,000+ posts]

i think what he was saying is OA will only be as big as Sundown ALLOWS them to be. They have a ceiling

OA was created to be the equivalent of Sundowns online only company as Sundown moves more towards dealer only. Also meant to be cost friendly. I dont think Jacob will "limit" what OA can do, but stay within the original goals of being "bang for your buck" type equipment. But thats not saying thats to limit OA products from being better than Sundown products.

 

[thegreatestpenn 5,000+ posts]

sounds like a limit to me

 

[JL Audio 5,000+ posts]

since sundown is moving more towards dealer based stuff... that does sound like a logical thing with obsidian.. but who owns obsidian? is it jacobs.. or he just doing stuff for them/with them? someone inform me.. sigh i'm behind on the times.

 

[infamous_e46 5,000+ posts]

vibe audio ftw man

 

[pro-rabbit 5,000+ posts]

I was playing around with a Vibe Audio 12" space and a 15" Vibe Audio blackdeath... They were not to shabby.

 

[twistedchild420 5,000+ posts]

Same build house off the shelf parts as Sundown Audio amps only difference is they dont have the R&D into their products that Jacob does. Same Zenon boards. Just because their prices are lower doesnt make them great. All the people jump all over Crescendos nuts on their comp sets and they are mediocre at best.

lol @ your only defense being a comp set :laughing: And yes...because the prices are lower it DOES make them great.....amps are built like tanks....And the lineup that is coming will be devastating. Are you one of those fools that believe the more you pay the better the product? lmao!

 

[SPLaudio 5,000+ posts]

OA is a Jake Fuller/Nick Lemon production, it is a internet sub company....

 

[whitedragon551 5,000+ posts]

lol @ your only defense being a comp set :laughing: And yes...because the prices are lower it DOES make them great.....amps are built like tanks....And the lineup that is coming will be devastating. Are you one of those fools that believe the more you pay the better the product? lmao!

Not at all. My argument is they are just another off the shelf company. Maybe their price is good, but they arent great products. Anyone else who has a company can go to the same build house, pick the same parts, and offer the same price. There is nothing special about them. I used their components as an example. Everyone nut hugs this company like its the best thing since sliced cheese when in reality its just like hundreds of other companies out there. If they dont improve and do R&D they wont be the next emerging car audio brand. They will just be another mediocre company that joins the rest of them.

I am one of those people who do believe you get what you pay for to a certain extent. Take an Audiopipe amp for example. Cheaply made, cheap parts, does rated power. By this forums theory its a great product simply because it does rated. Issue is only part of that power is useful. There is a reason Sundown is more expensive. Customer service and R&D come at a price. You think Audison is just expensive because? You think Zapco is just expensive for the heck of it? Doubt it. There is a clear reason they are expensive. They use superior parts to 99% of the off the shelf products you can get anywhere else. They have parts that are within closer tolerances. They use parts with less resistance. They use parts that are made out of quality materials themselves.

 

[slim2fattycake 10+ year member]

Guess that must be why JL is so expensive for the past decade with no new technology.

The only people that knock on crescendo are those that bought the same thing at higher cost.

Its also funny that audiopipe gets brought up. I think of high value and cost differently I guess. I need to get my hands on another ap3k so I can oscope and clamp that bitch or I could waste 150 dollars and get the SMD distortion thingy so it can detect down to the 1% distortion that NOBODY can hear a difference from .1% or .01%.

 

[pro-rabbit 5,000+ posts]

Guess that must be why JL is so expensive for the past decade with no new technology.
The only people that knock on crescendo are those that bought the same thing at higher cost.

Its also funny that audiopipe gets brought up. I think of high value and cost differently I guess. I need to get my hands on another ap3k so I can oscope and clamp that bitch or I could waste 150 dollars and get the SMD distortion thingy so it can detect down to the 1% distortion that NOBODY can hear a difference from .1% or .01%.

Actually I agree with whitedragon on this one. Weather the cost is drove up from R&D or from Marketing(JL/Kicker blah blah) there is no way to become "the next big....what ever" in any industry. It is basic business management and economics. If you only ride on others coat tails then you are giving yourself a short time in the light. If you ride other coats tails then make what you have better after raising some capitol then that is another story.