Newbie with newbie questions... long though...

Hello everyone,

Just signed on here as I have a few questions about my car stereo that I'm planning out right now.

First, here is the car and equipment specs:

2001 Audi S4 w/ Bose Symphony system. Front and rear door openings are 4", rear deck has a 6.5" opening. The 4" openings are a real pain but MB Quart has a 4">5.25" adaptor that hopefully I can find to fit the 5.25" components that I want in there. Many people have done this in their A4/S4s so I know it can easily be done.

Planned system: Here are the pieces of equipment that I already have and will be using.

PPI amps, a 2 ch. and a 4 ch. I cannot remember the model numbers for the life of me, they are grey and 1/2 of the tops are chrome. They're not the chrome series from about 3-4 years ago, these are the middle line ones that came out a year or two after those.

Eclipse 8810.4 sub. My buddy and I are going to tackle a fiberglass enclosure for this, we'll see how that goes.

Alpine 7995 HU. Heard good reviews and feedback from people. Missing the EQ but I'm just looking for better sound, not killer sound. I know the 9815 is coming out, but I got a good deal on this and figured I might as well.

Diamond Audio M651 components for the front. Will be using the MBQ adaptors to fit the drivers and the car has a 1" opening by the door handle for the tweeter.

For one thing, car stereos are not my top priority in the car. My top priority is driving and racing. I don't mind the extra weight in the trunk but I will not do kick panels... I don't think they get in the way that much but I'd rather not have the speakers there nor want the extra cost really. So I'll settle for the door openings at the bottom and the tweeters up top. I know this won't be great for the imaging but it will have to suffice. The 7995 has the time correction but I don't know how well it would work, just have to see.

With that in mind, I'm planning to add some 6.5's in the rear deck for rear fill. Before there's a huge debate about it, I'm really looking for some sound in the back and with the compromise in the imaging in the front already, I think that I should add the rears for some sound. With the 5.25" components up front, I think I'll want more midbass too anyway and the 6.5" rear fills would be nice.

Question, which 6.5" speakers should I get? A set of coax speakers? A regular midrange driver without a tweeter? I'm looking to spend not more than $100-150 on the rear speakers. I don't wanna destroy the soundstage up front by adding highs in the back (coax) so I'm wondering if a set of drivers is good? They'll be less directional without tweeters, but will there be enough vocals / highs? Or should I just get some coaxs so I have more choices with speaker brands / models and say screw it with the whole imaging thing? I don't care about rear passengers that's for sure though... they can drive themselves. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif Nevertheless, I'm pretty set on getting rear fill of some sort because I know the imaging up front will not be that great... So with that in mind, any recommendations would be great.

My 2nd question is does anyone know if the 7995 has some sort of mute feature that will accomodate cell phones? While I have the car apart I'm going to integrate my motorola V60 into the car. The only problem I'm seeing right now is that the HU won't mute itself when the phone rings. There is a lead in the phone's car kit to mute a stereo... I just don't know if the HU will do it. The mic and speaker for the phone I have handled.

3rd question: anyone know where I can get the MB Quart 4" to 5.25" adaptors? It seems like I can never get a definite answer... http://www.cartunes.com was where I was pointed to, but could not find them there. Any ideas would be great.

Last thing is if anyone in the Davis / Sacramento area is good at fiberglassing then let me know and if you can help me build a box (in a cubbyhole in the trunk, irregular shapes and curves all over) then that would be great...

TIA

 
so my opinion stands firm, bose is overprice over hyped garbage!

on the 6.5's people most always suggest a component set up front. i guess the tweeters bring your imaging up more... polk audio ex series components arent that expensive i think...

i didnt see anything about the cell phone mute here--->http://www.alpine1.com/html/D2_n_1_n_n.html you can look though //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

for the adapters, did you check crutchfield? http://www.cardomain.com has a lot of stuff too.

 
ok!

first as above bose systems are OVER PRICED YOU COULD HAVE INVESTED IN SOMETHING WORTH THE PRICE but tahts just my take its a personal choice. as for the 6.5 you can go MOREL MIDBASS if not go cheap you dont care if theyare good anyway so buy an alpine, pioneer , if you like MQ quart you can go for the DKD for 100 bucks, lots of good 6.5 man its all a matter of preference... you might try to go to a local store and listen to some and buy online coz its cheaper. one thing comes to mind you can go coax or whatever. but id say MOREL mid bass or some alpine midbass. that would be a good choice.

same i didnt find anything about the mute thing.

for the adaptors, you can try crutchfield.com, cardomain i think can have a few selection but i think crutchfield will be the place to go!

good luck man!

 
Natheo,

The Bose isn't that bad really! In fact it's actually really good for stock I think... The imaging isn't great and the midbass is seriously lacking with the tiny 4" drivers but for a stock system it's good. Great highs and things don't distort even at pretty high volumes. I mean I had a 1/2 decent system in my Camaro before the Audi and I could tolerate the stock Audi system for a year and a half. So it's not all that bad. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif But I don't have a trained ear like most guys on here do so don't quote me on it!

OK and for the record, it's not like I paid extra for the Bose!!! Those things come standard on the car... Just what it came with and nothing I could do about it, not even an option for me to not have it...

Yeah checked crutchfield and sounddomain, couldn't find it on either...

 
yeah but that remark mostly applied to home audio. ive heard a few bose life style systems, and bose needs to get over the fact that small speakers will just sound small, no getting around it. give me 2500, and i will make one bad *** home audio system. especially for what i pay for things //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif . at any rate, i know what you mean, people think i have a system in my impala all the time, i insist that its stock, they call bullshit til they see the headunit, which is stock. does anyone have problems with their rear veiw mirrors going out of adjustment? its really annoying...

btw nice car, you should just go all out and make it stupid fast AND stupid loud //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 
sennheiser has them whipped, same price too. i know from a side by side comparison. its opinion though i suppose when it comes to head phones. the boses werent bad at all.

 
yeah. i would buy them cause i can get some for like, 50 bucks or somethin. then sennheisers would cost me 89, but worth it to me. the boses didnt fit my big *** head as well, either.

 
i scratch your back you scratch mine //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif gotta make sure we are speaking of the same product here though. retail on these ones i speak of are 150.

i say that cause i could get canned for shit like this.

 
GOT CHOW!!

look into the adire midbass drivers though seriously. and i dont care what anyone says about the mm6's, if you put some on the back and rolled the tweeters back right on the crossover, you'd sound **** good.

 
Ok, agreed then, Bose sucks especially in home audio but is badass for noise cancelling headphones. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

OK how about this, I've looked around and in the $100-$130 range I found these 6.5" coaxs:

- Diamond Audio M3 series. Good idea to just stay with diamond audio all around?

- JL Audio TR650-CX. A bit of a flat speaker I heard, but someone recommended that it is a good rear fill.

- Infinity Kappa 62.5i. Don't know anything about these, but I've heard other Infinity stuff that sounded OK.

I should really just get my butt down to the stereo store and listen to some, but hopefully some tips on which ones to look out for would be good.

Yeah, doesn't seem like the alpine has a mute feature, oh well... live with it. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

Natheo,

Stupid fast... too hard to make that car stupid fast. I had a chip that raised the boost from 10psi to 17.5psi w/ 19psi spikes. It was an early version of the GIAC X chip and maybe they didn't get their full R&D done and I blew my turbos pretty quick. But I do drive the car pretty **** hard though... Dunno. So now I'll just leave it moderately fast and somewhat loud. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 
who says you have to leave THAT engine in there.....//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif actually i know not very much about cars, but enough. ive been wondering and i have asked but no good answers yet, do you think i could swap a 4.6l northstar (cadillac) engine into my 2000 impala? i would be going from 180 to 300 horsepower. if i could do this, how could this affect my ******, electronics, and anything else that could be affected?

did you take a look at any polk audio stuff? i swear to god i am the only one who ever mentions it.

 
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